GrumpyPlumber
Licensed Grump
"imposter impersonating a plumber. Attitude too negative; glosses over too many things. Arrived here concurrently with crisis in online forum in another group that is supposedly restricted to professionals only. "
To whom it may concern, I'm a licensed, self employed plumber.
COMPLETELY unaware of any crisis. (until now)
The insinuation is irrelevant...I am what I am.
I came here in hopes of meeting fellow professionals and exchanging idea's.
I read Terry's posts in another forum and decided to hop over and see whats here....I'm new there as well, I use the exact same screen name.
I have posted enough reasoning on the boards for you to see why I don't think freely offering "plumbing lessons" to the diy'er is a good idea.
Faucet washer replacements, washing machine connection, toilet flappers, sure.
There's a reason we are required to do an apprenticeship, attend years of school, have liability insurance in order to pull permits and have our work inspected, by a seasoned pro who has met the states requirements to do so.
Because even though I'm licensed, I'm human and subject to err, to which it seriously scares me to think homeowners might come here for tutorials on installing a water heater or boiler, still subject to the same human tendency to err, without the experience.
"Attitude too negative"
You're right...I could be more tactfull...but It's in the news all the time..."co deaths", "gas explosion kills family", pardon my rudeness...please.
I worked my tail off, as do all plumbers, to get my license...paid good money for my schooling, studied code till it became second nature, and continue to stay abreast of current code (part of my interest in coming here, but thats backfiring alot with the differences in each state).
I don't know what you do for a living, but I bet you worked hard to get to where you are, do you feel it's ok for people to "dabble" in your occupation without experience or some form of training?
Would you feel comfortable knowing your neighbor were working on, lets say, an irrigation system, without proper backflow to connect to your street main?
What about the local mortuary's water connection?
Plumbers see it all the time...people with no idea how important the most simple things can be...deciding to do work the way they want to do it only to reap the consequencial "benefits" later on.
I see ALOT of traffic here with people who are asking about what, why or how their plumber is doing what he's doing...thats great, feels good to help them to understand.
I see alot of fellow plumbers here that are great to chat with. (kinda like stopping by the supplier...any time of day or night)
I also see alot of people looking to save a buck...we have a responsibility to know when NOT to cross the line.
Flapper, yes - Boiler, NO!
To whom it may concern, I'm a licensed, self employed plumber.
COMPLETELY unaware of any crisis. (until now)
The insinuation is irrelevant...I am what I am.
I came here in hopes of meeting fellow professionals and exchanging idea's.
I read Terry's posts in another forum and decided to hop over and see whats here....I'm new there as well, I use the exact same screen name.
I have posted enough reasoning on the boards for you to see why I don't think freely offering "plumbing lessons" to the diy'er is a good idea.
Faucet washer replacements, washing machine connection, toilet flappers, sure.
There's a reason we are required to do an apprenticeship, attend years of school, have liability insurance in order to pull permits and have our work inspected, by a seasoned pro who has met the states requirements to do so.
Because even though I'm licensed, I'm human and subject to err, to which it seriously scares me to think homeowners might come here for tutorials on installing a water heater or boiler, still subject to the same human tendency to err, without the experience.
"Attitude too negative"
You're right...I could be more tactfull...but It's in the news all the time..."co deaths", "gas explosion kills family", pardon my rudeness...please.
I worked my tail off, as do all plumbers, to get my license...paid good money for my schooling, studied code till it became second nature, and continue to stay abreast of current code (part of my interest in coming here, but thats backfiring alot with the differences in each state).
I don't know what you do for a living, but I bet you worked hard to get to where you are, do you feel it's ok for people to "dabble" in your occupation without experience or some form of training?
Would you feel comfortable knowing your neighbor were working on, lets say, an irrigation system, without proper backflow to connect to your street main?
What about the local mortuary's water connection?
Plumbers see it all the time...people with no idea how important the most simple things can be...deciding to do work the way they want to do it only to reap the consequencial "benefits" later on.
I see ALOT of traffic here with people who are asking about what, why or how their plumber is doing what he's doing...thats great, feels good to help them to understand.
I see alot of fellow plumbers here that are great to chat with. (kinda like stopping by the supplier...any time of day or night)
I also see alot of people looking to save a buck...we have a responsibility to know when NOT to cross the line.
Flapper, yes - Boiler, NO!