Troodon
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Thank you for this invaluable forum and all the postings concerning the Toto unifit toilets. I installed mine (a Vespin II two-piece) yesterday, which I would never have had the confidence to try without the advice and explanations provided by you all.
Today I noticed the toilet rocks side-to-side. From the point of view of someone sitting on the toilet, the toilet rests on the left rear corner. If I sit and lean slightly to the right, the left rear corner of the toilet comes up, and when I lean again left I hear and feel it coming down. The front of the toilet remains in good contact with the floor.
The flange, when I pulled up the old toilet, had a slope towards left and front. The top surface measured 1/4 inch off the floor at the left flange bolt, and 3/8 off the floor at the right flange bolt. The old toilet had no leak issues, so I figured, maybe incorrectly, that the wax would compensate with the new one.
This morning after discovering the wobble, I removed the velcro-attached coverplates on the side and found both bolts loose again, despite having done a 1/2 turn with a wrench after finger tightening them, as per the instructions. I re-tightened the bolts and the wobble's still present. I haven't yet caulked the toilet, but I think I should do so with the product recommended in this forum (Loctite 2-in-1 tub/tile), after shimming the toilet with composite shims.
Sorry for including so many questions and details, but some of the questions are related to each other, and I'm trying to be thorough in my thinking about the situation:
A) Could the fact that the toilet has side-to-side play mean the unifit adapter does as well? And is the flange tilt an issue? It's a 1939 house, so the floor's not necessarily level either.
B) Should I pull up the toilet again, and inspect the unifit adapter? I'm wondering whether the side-to-side movement might be pulling up the anchors (it's an older, ceramic-tiled floor with wood underneath). It occurred to me that if the unifit adapter has been jostled a bit, for instance because the plastic anchors aren't holding in the surrounding floor material, and because the wobbling toilet has been pulling on the adapter, that the movement may have compromised the wax seal.
C) Can the tank be pulled off and put back on, using the same foam tank-to-bowl gasket? If I pull up the toilet to inspect the unifit adapter, I'll need to remove the tank first because I'm not strong enough to lift both (lower back issues), even with my wife's help. Is there a limit to the number of tank removals that can be done before you need to use a new gasket?
D) The Toto tank I got has a semi-circle cutout on the upper back rim. It's got the glaze over it, so it's not a chip that happened during shipping. Is this cutout by design?
I tried to include pictures of the flange, the wobble gaps, and the tank rim cutout, but the interface told me the message was too long, so I couldn't include them. Again, sorry for so many questions!
Thank you.
Today I noticed the toilet rocks side-to-side. From the point of view of someone sitting on the toilet, the toilet rests on the left rear corner. If I sit and lean slightly to the right, the left rear corner of the toilet comes up, and when I lean again left I hear and feel it coming down. The front of the toilet remains in good contact with the floor.
The flange, when I pulled up the old toilet, had a slope towards left and front. The top surface measured 1/4 inch off the floor at the left flange bolt, and 3/8 off the floor at the right flange bolt. The old toilet had no leak issues, so I figured, maybe incorrectly, that the wax would compensate with the new one.
This morning after discovering the wobble, I removed the velcro-attached coverplates on the side and found both bolts loose again, despite having done a 1/2 turn with a wrench after finger tightening them, as per the instructions. I re-tightened the bolts and the wobble's still present. I haven't yet caulked the toilet, but I think I should do so with the product recommended in this forum (Loctite 2-in-1 tub/tile), after shimming the toilet with composite shims.
Sorry for including so many questions and details, but some of the questions are related to each other, and I'm trying to be thorough in my thinking about the situation:
A) Could the fact that the toilet has side-to-side play mean the unifit adapter does as well? And is the flange tilt an issue? It's a 1939 house, so the floor's not necessarily level either.
B) Should I pull up the toilet again, and inspect the unifit adapter? I'm wondering whether the side-to-side movement might be pulling up the anchors (it's an older, ceramic-tiled floor with wood underneath). It occurred to me that if the unifit adapter has been jostled a bit, for instance because the plastic anchors aren't holding in the surrounding floor material, and because the wobbling toilet has been pulling on the adapter, that the movement may have compromised the wax seal.
C) Can the tank be pulled off and put back on, using the same foam tank-to-bowl gasket? If I pull up the toilet to inspect the unifit adapter, I'll need to remove the tank first because I'm not strong enough to lift both (lower back issues), even with my wife's help. Is there a limit to the number of tank removals that can be done before you need to use a new gasket?
D) The Toto tank I got has a semi-circle cutout on the upper back rim. It's got the glaze over it, so it's not a chip that happened during shipping. Is this cutout by design?
I tried to include pictures of the flange, the wobble gaps, and the tank rim cutout, but the interface told me the message was too long, so I couldn't include them. Again, sorry for so many questions!
Thank you.