Mikey
Aspiring Old Fart, EE, computer & networking geek
I installed 2 Eco Drake toilets in late 2016. Last week I heard one of them refilling for a few seconds without being flushed. I turned off the water and waited for a while, and sure enough, the water in the tank had gone down. I checked the flapper valve, and found the rubber(?) seal covered with a light brown grunge (technical term), which apparently prevented a good seal. It cleaned off easily, and after cleaning, the flapper sealed well. I checked the other toilet (used less often) and found the same grunge, but the seal still worked. The water quality is good, and the tanks both looked clean as new. Images show 1,2): top and bottom of a flapper with half of it cleaned, and 3) a tank interior:
![Flapper-2-20180304_101439[1].jpg Flapper-2-20180304_101439[1].jpg](https://terrylove.com/forums/data/attachments/40/40502-76ad2c1cbc25497b25620a53fd2e9b8b.jpg)
This exercise led to 3 questions: 1) What might the grunge be, and why is it so attracted to the rubber seal and nothing else? 2) is there an easy way to remove the flapper assembly from the standpipe (it's very hard to spread the legs of the clips to take the thing off); and 3) can the rubber seal be removed from the plastic carrier and replaced, or does the whole assembly have to be replaced? Looks like the latter; Korky says their 2023 will work.
![Flapper-2-20180304_101439[1].jpg Flapper-2-20180304_101439[1].jpg](https://terrylove.com/forums/data/attachments/40/40502-76ad2c1cbc25497b25620a53fd2e9b8b.jpg)
![Flapper-1-20180304_101453[1].jpg Flapper-1-20180304_101453[1].jpg](https://terrylove.com/forums/data/attachments/40/40504-0e308bf6d3df2d27e639be90b4b2a403.jpg)
![Tank-20180304_101831[1].jpg Tank-20180304_101831[1].jpg](https://terrylove.com/forums/data/attachments/40/40503-e87888cd141f2725372f2b0270ea38cb.jpg)
This exercise led to 3 questions: 1) What might the grunge be, and why is it so attracted to the rubber seal and nothing else? 2) is there an easy way to remove the flapper assembly from the standpipe (it's very hard to spread the legs of the clips to take the thing off); and 3) can the rubber seal be removed from the plastic carrier and replaced, or does the whole assembly have to be replaced? Looks like the latter; Korky says their 2023 will work.