Well pump problems, possible leak.

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Pardon? Reach4 was the guy who helped me out here a long time ago, if that is what you are refering to.

If it's my well issue, shoot , I don't understand it either LOL.
 

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Ok update for the gentlement who where helping me.

Pulled the pump, checked the line, and even replaced every point of contact, where a possible leak could occur.

Rebuilt the whole well head, as it needed to be done.

We tested the pump using a large Trash can, and got great water flow, we then hooked the 160' line up, and it pumped, but we shut it down as there wasn't enough water in the trash can to fill it all the way.

Dropped the pump back into well, tested again, works fine.

Hooked up to main house, at this point water is still turned off. Breaker tripped once, while testing with a garden hose, however the water is very cold.

Took hose back off, hit the breaker again, and tested at the hose faucet, water cold, no problems.

Came inside, been sitting for about 10 minutes, no water still, however, we can feel air being pushed out of lines.

So at this point, if water doesn't come on, I'm thinking a leak some where else, beyond the pump.

Wife just said, water started in kitchen, just a tiny stream. but then it stopped.

I can't help but wonder if it's not the darn breaker again... although, it is a 110 line, when I tested it the other day, there was no problems, I believe it was hitting between 110 and 120.

Which makes me woonder if it is not the pump.

I know when we tested it, it did have a slight rattle, but the pump worked just fine. The pumps Check valve was fine as well.

I did, try and put a new check valve on, right at the pump, but there was not enough water pressure in the garbage can to open it up. So I took it back off, which I will later put up top of the water line, right before it goes into the tank.

Just gonna sit here for about half an hour and see what happens.
 

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Vince just came back in, and said it was running, breaker not tripping so A-ok on that.

HE turns it on, air rushes out, and a little water.
 

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If you close the valve after the pressure tank, blocking the house from using water, how much water pressure can you develop in 10 seconds, and a minute?



I am thinking 3/4 HP 7 GPM would be good, and would support 30/50 psi but would also have no problem with a 40/60 pressure or 50/70 pressure. 10 gpm 1hp could work and is cheaper to buy. https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/p...eries-4-in-submersible-pump-230v?cm_vc=-10005 is such a pump.
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Note that a 3/4 HP 7 gpm pump is stronger than a 3/4 HP 10 gpm pump, and will cost more, because they have more stages. That Zoeller pump doesn't have enough stages for you, and even their 3/4 HP might not be enough. If you used their 1 hp pump, it would probably do the job.

A Grundfos SQ 10sq07-200 or 10SQ07-240 would be worth considering, and if you had a 4 inch steel casing as I do, then that is probably what you would want. I think your casing is bigger. Use a flow inducer on the pump if possible.
 
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Ok, I'm looking at Zoellers catalogue on their site, and not seeing a sump pump for a well. I see plenty of above ground pumps. Did you maybe post in the wrong thread, trying to answer some one else's question? Or am I just blind LOL.

The pump I have is that 1 HP cheapo from Hallmark.
 

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Oh sorry, your question.

If you close the valve after the pressure tank, blocking the house from using water, how much water pressure can you develop in 10 seconds, and a minute?

IT looks like none. However, when trying to take air out of the tank, It's staying at 60 PSI. or around there.

New pump switch (only one they had) was a 30 /50. I did loosen the top spring 3.5 turns.

I just got confused about the Zoeller pump. Sorry.

Shoot my pressure gauge might be bad , although, I know I hear air being pushed out.
 

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IT looks like none. However, when trying to take air out of the tank, It's staying at 60 PSI. or around there.
Zero water pressure on the gauge while the pump is drawing current? You need a different pump.

60 psi of air precharge in your pressure tank is way too much.
 

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Thank you Reach4. I'll let everyone know.

Can you possibly recommend a pump in the 7gpm range, that is at least affordable? I looked at one, and it was 1100 bucks. No way I can swing that.

at most, we may be able to come up with $250 or so.
 

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Thank you Reach4. I'll let everyone know.

Can you possibly recommend a pump in the 7gpm range, that is at least affordable? I looked at one, and it was 1100 bucks. No way I can swing that.

at most, we may be able to come up with $250 or so.
No. I checked Craigslist in NE for a used pump, but did not find anything.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/grd/d/addison-well-pump-franklin-electric/7357842039.html is out of your area.

Can you return your unusable Hallmark pump for refund? Maybe they would take it back for a 2-HP Hallmark pump. Not an ideal pump IMO, but it probably can pump water for you. I hae not tried to analyze their specs.

Some things are worth borrowing money for.
 
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Most wells can operate for years without maintenance, but that doesn’t mean your well doesn’t need occasional servicing. It is important to know the signs of well water problems so you can identify a possible problem before it becomes too serious.
While there are multiple reasons your well pump could be experiencing issues, there are 7 typical signs of well water issues:

1. Well pumps air and well yield is reduced
2. Well is pumping sand or sediment
3. Water pressure is low
4. Power bill has greatly increased
5. Water quality has changed
6. Bubbles or dissolved gases in the water
7. The pressure switch and pump continuously cycle on and off
 

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This pump is 16.7 GPM, and has a hea ddepth of 183 feet. Would something like this work, so I could eliminate having to pull that damn water line over and over and over again, while still getting water to the house?
As you figured out, you do not want a jet pump when you can use a submersible. They introduce drama, including priming and jet-clogging. They are noisier. They are less efficient.
 

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Thanks Brother! Yeah, I started looking at it a lot closer, and said Nope to Vince. I showed him the double line, and he was like Nope as well.

I'm trying to recall the name of a pump maker that I heard good things about, a long time ago. Red something or other.

Does it spring any thoughts?
 
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