Good God, Dana. I was wondering why my fruitcake was short a few nuts. Now I know.
I hope no one else wastes their breath trying to feed facts into your hate filled vision of the greatest thing that ever happened to humanity. The US.
You probably think I leave the house every morning to rape and pillage little old ladies and others who don't know how to do plumbing and electrical repairs.
You're a freakin’ dolt and a loser who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
You have such a nice way with words, though.
Terry, you're a super nice guy, but it's a tough world out there.
What hatred? Seriously?
I LOVE this country, and do so without having to put on magic rose-colored glasses for reading our history, or going on a simple minded cheer-leading session. This is a GREAT country, but it would be a mistake to assume that it's perfect, or doesn't have any problem chapters in it's history.
The US is the great experiment in self-rule, and a largely successful one so far, imitated and admired by others, including Muslim others, many of whom would prefer to live here, or remake their countries on US ideals, rule of law etc. (eg The Koreans refer to themselves as ethnically Hanguk (= Han people), and call the US "Miguk", yet the South Koreans have named their country "Han-Miguk", and have adopted quite a bit of US law & practices since losing their military dictatorship in the 1980s. It is still a work in progress, but WE are their aspirational model.)
I have ancestors (of the Puritan wingnut ilk) who came over on the Mayflower, and other colonial era Mennonite ancestors who fled religious persecution in Europe to settle in Pennsylvania & New York, as well as later immigrants who left the economic oppression in Ireland under the British rule to build the trans-pacific railroad, taking a Homestead Act plot in western Nebraska. There were plenty of folks already here who didn't think highly of my Catholic-Irish ancestors and their influence, and not very many approved of the anabaptist unitarian type teachings of my Mennonite ancestors either (but at least they weren't being tried, sentenced, and burned at the stake here.)
I really don't know what you do every morning, nor do I care. I don't think about it- this not in any way about YOU! It's about what Islam really is or is not, and about whether Muslims can live compatibly with the modernity. The Taliban/ISIS /Wahabist-conservatives/Al Qaeda and (apparently) you seem to be saying no, but that would be at odds with directly experienced reality. The aforementioned Islamic wingnuts are simply not representative of the majority of Muslims in the world.
Feed me facts? If only there were some actual
facts mixed in with the invective! So far your input seems pretty light on content, despite having claims to having studied history.
If you have NetFlix or other video streaming services with foreign content, try watching some boring TV series produced in Muslim majority countries (production quality isn't always great), but you'll get a better idea of how
real Muslims are managing with modernity than from self-promoters with an anti-Muslim agenda like Bill Warner. Most people are
not fundamentalists, and most Muslims today are capable of using their brains to filter their history & scripture in the framework & full light of modernity, just as people of other religious traditions do. Bill Warner is full of crap, but finds an ready audience among those who have no familiarity, only suspicion about the "other".