Delta RP17453 or RP5836?

Discussion in 'Shower & Bathtub Forum & Blog' started by rmgolob, Dec 21, 2016.

  1. rmgolob

    rmgolob Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2016
    Location:
    Indiana
    After research here and over the web in general, its a no brainer that I want a Delta Pull Down Diverter.
    The picture below is how I rigged it to install my current leaking generic diverter to be the right depth from the wall.
    As you can see, I can start at the 1/2" NPT steel and add whatever is necessary.
    I understand the general difference between the 17453 (sweat or thread connection) and the 5836 (slip on with set screw.) However, without holding each in my hand, I have no feel for dimensions, pipe needed, etc.
    I'm quite sure I could go either way - So is one better and or easier than the other?.
    If choosing, I'd rather have better than easier.

    Thanks in advance, Rob

    Faucet connection.JPG
     

    Attached Files:

  2. Reach4

    Reach4 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2013
    Location:
    IL
    Also see RP17454 which is the same size as RP17453. Here are my notes:
    Product Details for the Delta RP17454 6" Tub Spout Diverter Replacement Part

    Pull down to divert
    Thread onto 1/2" IPS nipple - 5/8" to 1-5/8" from wall surface
    Sweat onto 1/2" CWT - 1/4" to 1" from wall surface
    RP12307 Adapter assembly included​

    Your galvanized nipple looks to be in the right range. While a brass nipple would be better usually, your galvanized may be old enough to have built up a patina.

    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]

    The Delta RP17453 comes with the adapter above and threads on.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 5, 2018
    tjk likes this.
  3. Sponsor

    Sponsor Paid Advertisement

     
    tjk likes this.
  4. rmgolob

    rmgolob Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2016
    Location:
    Indiana
    Thank you .
    The 17454 is the same, except that the spout is metal instead of plastic?

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 21, 2016
  5. Reach4

    Reach4 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2013
    Location:
    IL
    I think so.
     
  6. rmgolob

    rmgolob Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2016
    Location:
    Indiana
    That's what google says.
    I ordered one - Thanks
     
  7. hj

    hj Master Plumber

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2004
    Occupation:
    Plumber
    Location:
    Cave Creek, Arizona
    Galvenized nipples do NOT develop a "patina", They RUST.
     
  8. rmgolob

    rmgolob Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2016
    Location:
    Indiana
    Why do I or do I not want a patina?
     
  9. Reach4

    Reach4 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2013
    Location:
    IL
    Old galvanized may have a coating of minerals or whatever to not give you rusty water. I put in a new galvanized nipple on a spout, and had rusty water out of the spout in a week. I replaced it with brass. No rust, despite the water having gone through some old galvanized. I attribute that non-rusty-water to a coating, inside the pipe ,with age, which I called a patina.
     
  10. tjk

    tjk New Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2017
    Location:
    Appleton, WI

    Hi,

    I've been looking all over for the easiest way to attach the RP17453 with the RP12307 adapter to the copper pipe sticking out of the wall (my copper pipe sticks out exactly 4").

    This picture almost does it for me. What I can't tell is where to solder the adapter onto the 1/2" copper pipe. It looks like the end with the rubber O-ring on it? But that doesn't look like solder, so I'm not sure.

    Also, I'm a novice at sweating (I've done a few copper to copper joints with a propane torch); any tips for sweating this brass adapter to the copper pipe?

    Finally, you said "Sweat onto 1/2" CWT - 1/4" to 1" from wall surface;" so it's the threaded end that needs to be that far from the wall?

    Thank you very much for any help you can give me!

    tjk
     
  11. Reach4

    Reach4 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2013
    Location:
    IL
    https://www.deltafaucet.com/files/live/sites/delta/files/customer-service/FAQs/Tub spout install.pdf

    I think you pick the O-ring off, and then solder that end. Then put the O-ring back after it cools.
    Yes... step C-1 and C-7.

    Midway between 1/4 inch and 1 inch is 5/8 inch, so I would shoot for that.
     
    tjk likes this.
Similar Threads: Delta RP17453
Forum Title Date
Shower & Bathtub Forum & Blog Delta RP17453 Single spout tub diverter May 13, 2011
Shower & Bathtub Forum & Blog Delta Faucets for bathroom sinks- Sep 6, 2021
Shower & Bathtub Forum & Blog Delta 600, Need help with shower. Have to push handle to right now to go off. Jul 17, 2021
Shower & Bathtub Forum & Blog Delta b114900c mixing valve leaking into wall Jul 12, 2021
Shower & Bathtub Forum & Blog Schluter KERDI Board, Delta Multichoice Shower Valve Body Rough In Jul 9, 2021

Share This Page