cartridge for Delta R10000-UNWS valve

Discussion in 'Plumbing Forum, Professional & DIY Advice' started by Joe Mc, Jun 29, 2008.

  1. Joe Mc

    Joe Mc New Member

    Jun 29, 2008
    I thought my DIY project was coming to a close, but….

    I replaced the old delta value with a new R10000 along with ball valves as a backup to allow restore of water to the house when I make a major mistake.
    Note: this is my first sweat job, I did practice a few sweats prior.

    1st problem I purchased the wrong cartridge at Lowes RP19804.
    Online I discovered I need…I think (they say it fits the R10000)? :
    “Delta Cartridge 1700 Series Fits the R10000 Valve“ part# RP46463.
    Is that really the correct cartridge# for valve R10000-UNWS???

    2nd problem handle face plate, this could be major. From what I can see on-line all of Delta’s face plate for the handle is quite big in diameter. The smallest 7.5 in diameter? My problem is that the current faucet is very close to the handle, the face plate will overlap the faucet. Is there a smaller diameter That I am unaware of, maybe change brands other than Delta for the plate???
    Dose any one know of a smaller handle plate I can use????


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  2. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

    Sep 2, 2004
    Retired Systems engineer for defense industry.
    New England
    IT's rare that another company's trim will fit.

    It looks like you could possibly move the valve up some - maybe enough. You'd have to verify the eschution will still cover the lower part of the hole. Depending on the dimmenstions, you might be able to cut the tile slightly to move it up more if the plate will cover all. The tile look like soft wall tile, if so, a carbide bit on a Rotozip or a Dremmel will cut it fairly easily. If it is porcelain, then you'll need diamonds.
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  4. Master Plumber Mark

    Master Plumber Mark Master Plumber

    Feb 6, 2005
    Sensitivity trainer.. plumber of mens souls
    indianapolis indiana - land of the free, home of
    if you want that valve ---e-mail me

    you certainly screwed the pooch with that faucet.....

    I still have a few dozen of that exact valve
    sitting on my shelves .......

    the un-opened box....trim kit and package and all.... too bad

    You have already installed a new delta valve....

    all you have to do is go out and buy the escutpion plate that
    they sell to cover a hole in the tile when you take out a 8 inch spread
    two handle facuet and install their single handle one..

    costs about 35 bucks....

    something else you might have to do is to lower the tub spout about
    one inch if you have to...... it wil be a pain in the ass to drill out the
    tile and re-do the copper,....but you might have to if you want to save thattile.
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2008
  5. jimbo

    jimbo Plumber

    Aug 31, 2004
    San Diego, CA
    Given the access you have at the back, why not just lower the tub spout into a new hole. You can get a backup plate for the spout if necessary to cover the old hole location.
  6. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

    Aug 31, 2004
    Cave Creek, Arizona

    The three valve trim plate still uses the new round trim ring so that will not address the distance problem. The 1700 core for that body comes with a small adapter that fastens in first with a Phillips screw and then the cartridge presses against that. I would have repaired the old valve rather than go to the work of replacing it.
  7. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    Bothell, Washington
    And heck, while you are lowering the tub spout, you may want to raise the valve body.
    I would get the new Delta Pie Pan, and see where it covers the hole, and then you will know how high you can go on the valve.

    Last edited: Aug 12, 2009
  8. Sandpiper Plumbing

    Sandpiper Plumbing Plumber

    May 4, 2008
    Northern by birth, Southern by choice
    You've already got a big hole in the wall. You might as well make it a little bigger and raise the valve. Chances are you probably shower in the tub alot more than you bathe so if I were you, I'd raise the valve to around 36-40 inches high, comfortable height for showering and still reachable if you're taking a bath.
    As far as repairing the old valve...once you twisted the copper tubing into a knot, that valve was junk, replacement was the only option at that point.
    One last thing...I can't be sure but it looks like your Delta valve may have integral stops, making your ball valves sort of redundant don't you think?
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2008
  9. Joe Mc

    Joe Mc New Member

    Jun 29, 2008
    Heck im starting alll over, yea! Since im going that far I dont mind tossing out the $50.00 valve and start a scavenger hunt for the older type valve.
    Besides I really like the older face plate, rather than the 7.5 - 8.0 dinner plate. I never would have thought there would be just one size:mad:

    Inaddition, If I continue with what I have I feel the end result will look somewhat bunched up or squeezed in to fit.

    Thanks all for the input, Ill keep ya'll posted with my beginners luck and pics.

    ...does anybody have the old type valve or at least a part#??? (I already have the cartridge)

    thanks again!
  10. Master Plumber Mark

    Master Plumber Mark Master Plumber

    Feb 6, 2005
    Sensitivity trainer.. plumber of mens souls
    indianapolis indiana - land of the free, home of
    yes I have the valve....

    I have the valve and the trim kit if you
    absolutely are hell bent on this....

    you need to send me a pic of
    exactly what you got..

    I should have something very similar..

    although I think you got to be nuts...

    tell me what you feel it is worth
    I generally just break them down for the
    cartriges and parts when I run into one

    I have thrown a good dozen bodies
    into the brass barell

    the cartridge is about a 30 dollar item
    the diverter plunger is worth about 18 bucks...

    who knows what the trim is worth...

    let me know if you really want to proceed
    down this road...
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