Plumbersnightmare
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Hi,
First post but longtime DIY and mostly not an idiot.
I'm considering the cost effectiveness of digging in a basement and adding a full bath.
Recently replaced all plumbing/sewer from galvanized/cement to copper/ABS. (old cement butt join sewer main was eaten by trees and all the galvanized was 40ish years old).
Would have gone with pex but didn't have the tools and the copper was mostly a gift leftover from another persons house (and I know how to solder copper.)
From what I've been able to find and read about basement bathrooms I am 99% certain that I would prefer to do some cement work and make a below grade pit type with a submersible pump. Instead of one of those behind the toilet maserator type jobs.
What all else is involved?
other than a pit (any links to designs building methods appreciated)
a pump
(I personally selected pit pump design to be able to use everything else standard (abs drain toilet ect ect)
I also plan to have a safety drain in the floor (plan basement to have 2 levels lower lvl with washer dryer hw tank and bathroom possiblly kitchenette and a one step higher level all non-wet (typically) bedroom living room area. (oz of prevention vs pound of cure mentality)
I think I've found a decent deal on a submersible pump for the pit but my experience is VERY limited. so....
Here is the Pump brand and model ... From the details above you know what I would like the capability to do in this space ...
Homa 2" discharge part number TP50M24/2/1
Is 550$ good deal or ??
ANY thoughts or extra knowledge is GREATLY apprecated
http://www.homapump.com/pdf/TP SERIES/Brochure/TP50M Brochure.pdf
The pump is the second one on the PDF
Full bathroom/kitchenette/Washer Dryer/ Emergency Only floor drain (Hot Water tank burst break ect ect)
Will this pump handle it?
also removal of any of the above is fine like ... you can do bathroom but adding Washer dryer bad idea or no kitchen sink or whatever.
Any other non standard bathroom parts that I would need (concrete for pit and standard bathroom parts feel free to exclude.)
also if anyone has an inkling power / breaker requirements? from the details It looks like its a 220v submer pump so a dedicated 2 pole breaker and wiring of what Amp / gauge if anyone knows offhand.
Thanks for any and all advice and for a point of reference I live in the USA in a Desert near a river but about 100' above the river high water / flood level.
Oh ... anyone see a problem with running the basement 4" ABS thru the basement wall and locating the pit on the exterior of the foundation and connect the pump outflow to say the houses mainline via the vent access (IE add a down swept T below the vent cap) and anything I need to know regarding venting this whole system? Should it all be a dedicated venting for basement or connect to the upstairs venting? (crap someone just tell me a book on how to be a plumber!)
Thank you in advance for your time, tips and links to any reference materials.
First post but longtime DIY and mostly not an idiot.
I'm considering the cost effectiveness of digging in a basement and adding a full bath.
Recently replaced all plumbing/sewer from galvanized/cement to copper/ABS. (old cement butt join sewer main was eaten by trees and all the galvanized was 40ish years old).
Would have gone with pex but didn't have the tools and the copper was mostly a gift leftover from another persons house (and I know how to solder copper.)
From what I've been able to find and read about basement bathrooms I am 99% certain that I would prefer to do some cement work and make a below grade pit type with a submersible pump. Instead of one of those behind the toilet maserator type jobs.
What all else is involved?
other than a pit (any links to designs building methods appreciated)
a pump
(I personally selected pit pump design to be able to use everything else standard (abs drain toilet ect ect)
I also plan to have a safety drain in the floor (plan basement to have 2 levels lower lvl with washer dryer hw tank and bathroom possiblly kitchenette and a one step higher level all non-wet (typically) bedroom living room area. (oz of prevention vs pound of cure mentality)
I think I've found a decent deal on a submersible pump for the pit but my experience is VERY limited. so....
Here is the Pump brand and model ... From the details above you know what I would like the capability to do in this space ...
Homa 2" discharge part number TP50M24/2/1
Is 550$ good deal or ??
ANY thoughts or extra knowledge is GREATLY apprecated
http://www.homapump.com/pdf/TP SERIES/Brochure/TP50M Brochure.pdf
The pump is the second one on the PDF
Full bathroom/kitchenette/Washer Dryer/ Emergency Only floor drain (Hot Water tank burst break ect ect)
Will this pump handle it?
also removal of any of the above is fine like ... you can do bathroom but adding Washer dryer bad idea or no kitchen sink or whatever.
Any other non standard bathroom parts that I would need (concrete for pit and standard bathroom parts feel free to exclude.)
also if anyone has an inkling power / breaker requirements? from the details It looks like its a 220v submer pump so a dedicated 2 pole breaker and wiring of what Amp / gauge if anyone knows offhand.
Thanks for any and all advice and for a point of reference I live in the USA in a Desert near a river but about 100' above the river high water / flood level.
Oh ... anyone see a problem with running the basement 4" ABS thru the basement wall and locating the pit on the exterior of the foundation and connect the pump outflow to say the houses mainline via the vent access (IE add a down swept T below the vent cap) and anything I need to know regarding venting this whole system? Should it all be a dedicated venting for basement or connect to the upstairs venting? (crap someone just tell me a book on how to be a plumber!)
Thank you in advance for your time, tips and links to any reference materials.