My brother has one of those Kohlers. He's very happy with his flush....because he doesn't see the (non-Toto) toilet I have that flushes as well and has a much better bowl rinse. His kohler has almost no bowl wash. I wonder if his wife is happy cleaning the toilet more often (1 teen and 1 ******* also live in the house).[/QUO
florida orange,
i have a kohler, i have to tell you that the bowl rinse is more than adequate to clean the bowl. it is working as designed. have you asked your brother/wife if they had to clean their kohler more than necessary?
my kohler wellworth class 5 round bowl, bought from ********* , is performing superbly for the last 2 months with very heavy use. takes care of everything in one flush, water is very clear post flush unlike my old american std. bowl remains clean, which to me means the bowl rinse is adequate to clean the bowl.
i will get another one of these once the need arises on my other bathroom.
If I remember when we aren't eating I will ask my sister-in-law.
You should see my house Terry, my wife has borderline OCD when it comes to cleaning. 23-1/2 hours a day our house is more than fit for guests.
Happy Thanksgiving day to you, sir. Now I know that your statement about kohler was a supposition. I assure you that mine is not.
Not true.
But if you like numbers, would you be interested in a 1968 Chevy Nova with a big V-8 Engine?
It's a 350 cubic inch. Wow! That's really big.
Drum brakes on four wheels, and a vinyl bench seat.
The AM radio gets five stations.
To see what we are talking about in waste, this is the old method of testing before they started wrapping the paste.
Drake 800 grams by Veritech Video
Terry,
I submit to your expertise when it comes to plumbing. However I believe this is not a good analogy, the statement was referring to MaP which is a laboratory controlled performance test. It's like a 0-60mph test on cars, not engine displacement,brakes nor radio equipment comparison.
i have to say this toilet exceedingly performs well. it does not seem to get smeared, thanks to an unusually large water spot that is almost as large as the toilet seat hole, thus any human detritus ends up falling on water whether its a small child or a 185 lbs man who eats plenty of roughage. mid november , a family member had a bout of diarrhea due to food poisoning after the flush, the bowl walls were clean! slight brown smear within the water spot that disappeared later on. did not have to bring out the brush to clean it out. what i do now is i spray the inside of bowl with simple green about 2x/week.
i will measure the water spot for my next post. might even take a picture to show it.
What a fantastic toilet and for a fantastic price too.
A small gap between the tank and the bowl is normal.
I get a slight rock on mine too, if I push it.
i second the motion on all counts. i installed one in a friends house and have used it on 2 occasions since then. very good value toilet.
John Koehler of MaP has said many times, that their test, only checks one thing.
That's right, even they say it only tests one thing.
And he also has said that the manufacturers have figured out what that one thing is.
Here let me make that one point clear, I'm holding up one finger for you.
The difference between what they do, and what I do, is that I "do" look at everything.
And the people writing in, look at everything.
And, if a product is junk, they quit buying it.
That's why I'm replacing Cimarron toilets with Drakes and Ultramax toilets.
It's why I almost never sell Caroma toilets anymore. Not that they don't have their supporters. Even John Koeller bought one on the basis of his test, and then complained after using one, that the bowl is always dirty.
It's also why I hardly ever sell two Gerber pressure assist toilets to anyone.
Once people have them in their home, you can't keep fooling them.
On paper, it may make sense to think that looking at one side of the building will tell you everything.
But trust me Pexman, if you are in the back alley looking through the garbage container for todays dinner, that's not the same experience that we get going through the front door.
It's true, that we pay a little more then you do, but we also get seated comfortably, the food is prepared for us, and they take the dishes away.
We don't have to clean up afterwords.
Wow! What a concept!
it was the analogy i was pointing out. in the laws of logic a wrong analogy makes a statement a fallacy.