Tripping overloads.

[Selkirk]

Hi guys, my well started to trip a overload. Second time in one week. Any tips?

Well

Static water 40'
Pump 140'
Depth 415'
1 1/2hp pump
Franklin box 2823008110
Pump age 23-24 yrs
Three wire
80 Gal tank w/air volume control
Cycle Stop Valve installed 15 years ago

Test-with good meter

B,Y,R -OL to ground
Y-R 9.4
Y-B 2.2
B-R 11.6
Overloads, left .1 right .2
Caps test in spec
Relay test Ok

Running Amps -Only had a cheap clamp meter
B, 12-13.5
Y, 12-13
R, 1.6


Thanks for any help.

 

[Reach4]

You measured the capacitance of the start cap to be over 100 mFd?

Does "Overloads, left .1 right .2" indicate that you only show less than 0.3 amps passing through each overload device?

 

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[Selkirk]

It was last week when I measured the start cap, I don't recall the exact reading but it matched the cap markings. something like 126 mFd.

The overload was a ohms reading, passing thru each side of the overload. Two overloads on this box. I watched youtube from W.C. Worst on my model Franklin control box testing. Followed it and his threshold was less than .5 ohms. Is this the correct way to test them?

 

[Valveman]

Age of pump, first 9 years no CSV. Try a new control box. If still trips gonna need new motor. CSV probably got you several extra years. 7 years is average life of submersibles.

 

[Selkirk]

Thanks Valveman, the first 9 years had almost no use on the pump. Maybe a weekend or two per month. When usage increased I added the CSV. I had the same thinking on the control box and ordered one last night. With the age would you just replace the motor or pump and motor?

 

[Fitter30]

Page 45 shows two caps start and run
Two overloads one is start the other main
Page 42 shows 126 mfd and 15 mfd caps and the start relay
Page 51 shows motor amps fla and max amps if u have a their pump

https://www.rcworst.com/Shared/content/mfr/franklin_electric/docs/feaim_manual23.pdf

 

[Valveman]

What pump is it? Old one maybe better than new one.

 

[Selkirk]

What pump is it? Old one maybe better than new one.

If I recall, it was a Goulds brand pump. Not sure what model.



Fitter30. Thanks for that info.

 

[Valveman]

Goulds pump will probably still be good to just put a new motor on. But never really know what the problem is until you pull it and have a look.