con·text
ˈkäntekst/
noun
- the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed.
"the decision was taken within the context of planned cuts in spending"
synonyms:circumstances, conditions, factors, state of affairs, situation, background, scene, setting More
- the parts of something written or spoken that immediately precede and follow a word or passage and clarify its meaning.
"word processing is affected by the context in which words appear"
Key discussion points as I see them
- Standard for Uncoupling membranes (title of the discussion here)
- "Sometimes they say they should be bonded to the substrate others say they don't need to be bonded. There is no agreement on how they should be installed and what they should do."
How can Dave stop in and not tell everyone what "Uncoupling Membrane" or "What product advertised as an uncoupling membrane" does not require bonding.
Last year a builder called the TCNA over a failed flood test. It was part of a Hot tub project in the US. Aqua Defence was the primary waterproofing material. He asked for help after the flood tested failed and he rang the TCNA for a detective. He was given a phone number. I was told that the call went something like this. "Installer Error is the main reason for most failures" Sight unseen. No visit. No nothing. My guess is very few jobs get looked at by TCNA detectives on the small time level. On commercial failures that is another thing all together. I spoke last year to another top tile man. This one referred to himself in the third person. Told me all the reason why drywall is the best backer board for a shower.
If you have a failure. What do you do? My gut tells me that the top detectives may not have the interests of the tile men on their sides. My gut tells me that even in smaller job things can go horribly wrong with a build. It is not enough to trust what the makers of products say as gossbel. If something fails- what are the worked in loop holes? You should know.
The term "Others" comes up all the time in specification.
Framing built and designed by others.
Tile assembly designed by others.
Load capicity set by others.
You are the "Other". Someone needs to be. If you are designing say 4000 hotel rooms in las vegas. Then calling someone like Dave Gobis to get a specification guideline is key to in my opinion shielding yourself from a failed specification. If you own a private care facility and all your showers are failing and you want to sue the builder. Then calling a detective like Dave Gobis can arm you with facts from a tile pro.
If your steam shower craps out? Who are you going to call? If your waterproofing flood test fails. Who are you going to call?
I heard back from Laticrete all ready and they are not aware of any product like Dave mentions. Waiting to hear back from Noble Company. Might as well call Mapei and Custom at the some time today.
Now just for fun. What if we call all the companies. And not one company makes nor knows about this phantom product. The uncoupling membrane that does no require bonding. They what should we make of that?
My name is John Whipple. My name is right there on the left. I build showers. I have no lab. No staff. I'm not paid by these companies to stir up shit. I'm not paid by them to sell their product. I blog about stuff I learn. Stuff I'm told. And stuff I find out.
Over the years I have been given loads of free product. From Schluter. From Ardex. From Laticrete. From Noble. These same companies I have used for years. I'm loyal to none of them. I use what I like from each to suit my needs.
They say respect is earned. Dave Gobis has yet to earn my respect. He shares in my opinion enough online to cause confusion or sell his ideas. He is not in my opinion a shinny knight and "Da man" he thinks he is. This is my opinion. I'm entitled to it. This is a public forum where people discuss things. Some topics just a little hotter than others.
Like I said above. When Dave tells me what the product is. I'll tell him who told me they think Schluter sponsored his lab for the first 10 - 20 years. Honestly it pisses me off to no end when people in this bunisness say things they do not want repeated. I don't play that game. You tell me something - you can bet your ass I'm going to share it....