Hi all,
Thanks in advance for any help here. We are doing a bathroom remodel and I feel like everyone I talk to gives me a different answer--even employees at the same plumbing supply store. I'm hoping to arrive at some sort of consensus.
Our bathroom is completely torn apart, but here is a rending of the remodel we are doing:
Obviously the valves are missing here, and that's what I'm trying to figure out. I really wanted to put the shower heads on their temperature and each group (of three) body sprayers could be on their own temperature and volume. The salesman we worked with at the plumbing store suggested we go with Moen and use five 1/2" Moentrol valves for everything. So, we'd end up with 5 Moentrol valves and handles looking like this:
Conceptually, I really like this idea, but I was worried about water pressure in this scenario. The Moen body sprayers were 2.0gpm each, but we also looked at ones that were 2.5gpm each. We had talked to another salesperson at the same store that insisted that 3/4" supplies should be run if we're using body sprayers. The salesman suggesting the 5 Moentrol valves (push/pull for volume, turn knob for temperature), however, insisted we'd have plenty of pressure and that the heads only connect to 1/2" supply lines anyway, so there was no sense in using 3/4" supply lines. I do have access to the 3/4" lines coming off the main, FYI.
Confused, I called Moen today, but since I'm not a contractor, they wouldn't let me talk to their "pros," so I had to try to relay all of this information over the phone to a lady that would put me on hold and talk to the pros and then relay their response back to me. They suggested using two 3/4" thermostatic valves for each side, with separate volume controlling diverters for the different heads. It seems like this is what most people were suggesting when we went out shopping, but it doesn't solve my desire to be able to control temperatures separately (the reason I want this, JFYI, is because the rainfall shower head, hand shower, and body sprayers will all be different distances away, and it seems like it would be really nice to tweak the temperatures separately just how you want them).
On top of all this, the people doing my remodel have just said that if the pressure isn't where I want it when they are done, they can "add a chamber of air to the water lines of the house."
I'd really appreciate any advice on how to handle this situation.
Thanks!
EDIT: If anyone is in the SLC and knows what they are doing, I'd be happy to pay to have this done properly. It's so hard to find plumbers right now.
Thanks in advance for any help here. We are doing a bathroom remodel and I feel like everyone I talk to gives me a different answer--even employees at the same plumbing supply store. I'm hoping to arrive at some sort of consensus.
Our bathroom is completely torn apart, but here is a rending of the remodel we are doing:
Obviously the valves are missing here, and that's what I'm trying to figure out. I really wanted to put the shower heads on their temperature and each group (of three) body sprayers could be on their own temperature and volume. The salesman we worked with at the plumbing store suggested we go with Moen and use five 1/2" Moentrol valves for everything. So, we'd end up with 5 Moentrol valves and handles looking like this:
Conceptually, I really like this idea, but I was worried about water pressure in this scenario. The Moen body sprayers were 2.0gpm each, but we also looked at ones that were 2.5gpm each. We had talked to another salesperson at the same store that insisted that 3/4" supplies should be run if we're using body sprayers. The salesman suggesting the 5 Moentrol valves (push/pull for volume, turn knob for temperature), however, insisted we'd have plenty of pressure and that the heads only connect to 1/2" supply lines anyway, so there was no sense in using 3/4" supply lines. I do have access to the 3/4" lines coming off the main, FYI.
Confused, I called Moen today, but since I'm not a contractor, they wouldn't let me talk to their "pros," so I had to try to relay all of this information over the phone to a lady that would put me on hold and talk to the pros and then relay their response back to me. They suggested using two 3/4" thermostatic valves for each side, with separate volume controlling diverters for the different heads. It seems like this is what most people were suggesting when we went out shopping, but it doesn't solve my desire to be able to control temperatures separately (the reason I want this, JFYI, is because the rainfall shower head, hand shower, and body sprayers will all be different distances away, and it seems like it would be really nice to tweak the temperatures separately just how you want them).
On top of all this, the people doing my remodel have just said that if the pressure isn't where I want it when they are done, they can "add a chamber of air to the water lines of the house."
I'd really appreciate any advice on how to handle this situation.
Thanks!
EDIT: If anyone is in the SLC and knows what they are doing, I'd be happy to pay to have this done properly. It's so hard to find plumbers right now.