Drake 1.6 vs Drake 1.28 vs Drake II 1.28

[Kurt S]

I'm replacing two toilets.
Features desired: ADA, beige, elongated bowl, CEFIONTECT.

Looking at the Drake (1.6 and 1.28) and the Drake II 1.28, is there much of a difference between these three in performance? Issues with skid marks / clean bowls?
The salesman hedged on how well the 1.28's flushed.

Did I see that I can convert the Drake from a 1.28 to a 1.6 if I don't like the 1.28?

I think with those options, the cost will be about the same?

Thanks!
Kurt

 

[WJcandee]

I'm replacing two toilets.
Features desired: ADA, beige, elongated bowl, CEFIONTECT.

Looking at the Drake (1.6 and 1.28) and the Drake II 1.28, is there much of a difference between these three in performance? Issues with skid marks / clean bowls?
The salesman hedged on how well the 1.28's flushed.

Did I see that I can convert the Drake from a 1.28 to a 1.6 if I don't like the 1.28?

I think with those options, the cost will be about the same?

Thanks!
Kurt

Let's see...

The original Drake isn't going to come in beige with CEFIONTECT, so scratch that. And you can't get it with ADA height AND CEFIONTECT.

For the "combo package", you want the Drake II, CST454CEFG, which has everything you want: CEFIONTECT, elongated bowl, available in Sedona Beige, Universal Height. It comes with the double-cyclone flush, which is an excellent system that gives a little more bowl wash than the original Drake.

The salesman shouldn't have hedged about the 1.28gpf flush. They flush just fine.

And, yes, if for some reason you need a little more water in the flush, you can drop in the Korky Large Adjustable 3" flapper and set it to close a little more slowly than the original flapper. But you won't find it to be necessary. We have the Carlyle II, which has the double-cyclone 1.28gpf flush, and it's great.

And the Drake II is the number-one-selling toilet (of any brand) at a big retailer, which indicates at least something.

 

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[Jadnashua]

Not all brands are created equal, so some 1.28g toilets do not work great, just like some 1.6g ones don't, and the 3.5g ones didn't. Toto has generally done quite well with theirs. Going from a really old one that used 7-8g to 1.28g, yes, you'll see less bowl wash, but the good ones do quite well, thank you!

 

[WJcandee]

Not all brands are created equal, so some 1.28g toilets do not work great, just like some 1.6g ones don't, and the 3.5g ones didn't. Toto has generally done quite well with theirs. Going from a really old one that used 7-8g to 1.28g, yes, you'll see less bowl wash, but the good ones do quite well, thank you!

Great post, Jim! I had read the OP to have said that among Totos the salesman hedged about how the 1.28s flushed, but your reading is probably better, and your answer more complete.

 

[Kurt S]

Thanks guys! That helps.
I missed that CEFIONTECT wasn't on the Drake - and the saleman quoted it for me too!

 

[WJcandee]

Thanks guys! That helps.
I missed that CEFIONTECT wasn't on the Drake - and the saleman quoted it for me too!

Yeah...they have the original Drake in CEFIONTECT but only in Cotton White, no other colors.

 

[Kurt S]

Just a follow up - I got the Drake II 1.28 (in the beige). Very happy with both toilets. The plunger use has dropped precipitously - maybe 4 or 5 times in 10 years!
I did have to replace one Toto seat - the hinge tore off while cleaning the toilet. I wasn't there, don't know.