adding shower in basement

Discussion in 'Plumbing Forum, Professional & DIY Advice' started by glalonde, Aug 18, 2007.

  1. glalonde

    glalonde New Member

    Aug 18, 2007

    edited: This was posted on another forum but better explained here:

    I've had a basement rough-in put in place in 1994 (refer to drawing below). It consists of a sink drain (also connected to a vent), which is connected to a toilet drain. The toilet drain is connected to a sewage tank of ~26" dia. x 3' deep, which is also vented. This sewage tank is for a future lift station (there's no sewage pump yet). The actual septic tank is outside the house but higher than the basement. All the drains are under the basement concrete floor.
    This rough-in passed inspection.

    Note that although the picture shows the toilet and the sink, these are not present. Everything is roughed-in i.e. there's no walls yet, no ceiling, therefore the 2 existing vents are easily accessible.

    I would like to add a shower which was not part of the original rough-in. This will require breaking the cement floor and adding a pipe with ‘P’ trap.

    Can I bring the pipe directly from the shower to the sewage tank ?
    I will need to drill a hole on the side of the sewage tank, and connect and seal the pipe around it.
    If so, do I need a vent since the pipe length will be only ~25" between both ‘open-air’ ends and since this will be a stand-alone pipe (no other pipes will be connected to it, therefore no siphon problems cause by the other drain).

    Or, do I need to connect it to the existing drain (assuming that no more than one drain can go to the sewage tank) ? In this case, I do understand that I would need to vent it, to prevent siphon problems when flushing the toilet.

    Thanks, Guillaume

    Last edited: Aug 18, 2007
  2. BAPlumber

    BAPlumber Plumber

    Jul 18, 2007
    Journeyman Plumber, business owner
    Vashon, Washington
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  4. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    Bothell, Washington
    I would connect the shower to the wc drain, making sure you vent it.
    You would use a wye fitting off of the toilet drain, and the vent would also be a wye and 45 fitting.
  5. cwhyu2

    cwhyu2 Consultant

    Aug 11, 2007
    Cincinnati OH
    In our neck of the woods we are required to have vent from the sewage
    pit sepretly out the roof.your codes may be different. I would tie in to
    the line coming w/c.Also Iwould revent the shower drain.This should be
    done in 2" pipe.A 2" ejecter pump is required.Vent from s/d can be 1.5".
    Check your local codes.
  6. Master Plumber Mark

    Master Plumber Mark Master Plumber

    Feb 6, 2005
    Sensitivity trainer.. plumber of mens souls
    indianapolis indiana - land of the free, home of
    tin into the pit

    You look like you got a good plan

    all that really needs to be done is dig the line to either the
    side of the pit or to the 3 inch line from the toilet
    and then right back behind the shower throw a 2 inch wye on its back for a re-vent for the shower

    thenrun that new 2 inch vent up 36 inches and tie back into the main vent comming out of the sweage pit.. that is more than large enough to
    accomidate it

    It does looks like a closer run just to tie into the side of
    the pit with a 2 inch line, but if their is a lot of
    SURFACE WATER and your hole is not selaed tight
    you could end up with that
    water eventually leaching into the pit...

    have fun
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