14" Rough-In Toilet Choices

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  1. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    Look at Terry's store to get an idea of a fair street price on toilets. Don't go by the retail prices. Call a few places and you may be quite surprised on your local street prices. I think the Vespin is the least expensive Toto that uses the UniFit adapter...I have one, it works fine (installed nearly 14-years ago) and a Carlyle. The II series have better bowl wash, but the need for that often depends on your diet.
     
  2. jaXx

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    Hello!

    This has been a great resource; I have an east coast home built in the 1930s with 14" rough-ins all around.

    I'm trying to decide between the Carlyle II (MaP >=600) and the Carolina II (MaP >=350).

    They seem identical except for the tank height in schematics, but according to MaP, the Carlyle II has a 3" flapper and a much higher score.

    Can anyone help me break the tie?
     
  3. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    They Carlyle II and Carolina II are the same except for the tank height. I would opt for the taller tank if it fits. The shorter Carolina is sometimes used under a banjo countertop.
     
  4. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    While the toilet doesn't actually dump the entire tank when you flush, just like a water tower helps provide the pressure to the supply system, a taller toilet tank gives things a bit more oomph when you flush because it has to fall further to get into the bowl.
     
  5. jaXx

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    Thanks Terry (et al.)!

    Moving forward with the Carlyle II for those reasons (higher tank, slightly increased pressure). Since I'm not working with a height restriction it seems like the right way to go (also, cheaper than the Carolina II by some $40-60).

    I'll report back after I install and it has passed the trial-by-father-in-law.

    And in the meantime, spreading the word about this site to my Seattle-area homeowner friends!
     
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