What type of system is this and can anyone name the parts to it?

[Jim Bob]

What type of system is this and can anyone name the parts to it?

Also, why would there be two guages on this system and not 1? As far as the top gauge one day I was looking at it when it was making noise (guess turning on) and it was at like 62 and then around 10 minutes later at 57, but ive seen it as long as 46. As far as bottom one, Ive only looked at it once and it was 52.

Lastly, can anyone tell me why there is a water bib/spigot on 1 of the pipes and what that is all about?

Thanks

 

[Valveman]

Looks like you have a submersible pump in a well somewhere that works with that blue pressure tank. The other stuff looks like an aeration tank and filter. The hose bib is just a drain or test cock.

 

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[Jim Bob]

Looks like you have a submersible pump in a well somewhere that works with that blue pressure tank. The other stuff looks like an aeration tank and filter. The hose bib is just a drain or test cock.

Thanks, alot.

I cant figure out why there are two of those tanks tho.

I just fixed my old irrigation system and trying to figure out why my irrigation system pressure drops after 30 seconds of use..

When I turn on the sprinklers the top gauge stays at around 50s or close to 60, doesnt do anything, however that bottom gauge drops to below 10 when the sprinklers turn on and when I shut them off, goes back to around 50 or 55. So I thought Id take a look into it.

 

[LLigetfa]

Gauges that are outdoors subject to the elements cannot be trusted. Try new gauges.

The top gauge should roughly follow or read lower than the bottom one. The bottom gauge is the pressure from the pump. If it reads true, then you are drawing water faster than the pump can deliver it.

 

[Jim Bob]

Gauges that are outdoors subject to the elements cannot be trusted. Try new gauges.

The top gauge should roughly follow or read lower than the bottom one. The bottom gauge is the pressure from the pump. If it reads true, then you are drawing water faster than the pump can deliver it.

Okay, so i took another look...

Prior to turning either the water spigot on or sprinklers, the top gauge is around 55 and bottom around 55, so about the same.

When I turn water spigot on for few minutes:

Top gauge rose to around 65 and im assuming would of kept rising if I kept it on?

Bottom gauge stayed at around 55.

When I turn on sprinklers for 30 seconds:

Top gauge stays at 55.

Bottom gauge drops to about 10.

If this is the problem, how would I go ahout fixing it?

 

[LLigetfa]

Top gauge rose to around 65 and im assuming would of kept rising if I kept it on?

On what do you base that assumption?

My guess is that inside that Water Guard to the right, there is a booster pump which would explain the top gauge reading higher than the bottom one. That also matches with the bottom gauge dropping to 10 when the sprinklers are on. Also explains why there is the top gauge.

Since I cannot see inside that Water Guard, I can only guess there is a booster pump inside. I don't know what controls that pump, be it a flow sensor or a pressure switch.

 

[Boycedrilling]

The big tank is an aerator tank. Look at Water Medic's website.

Maybe instead of asking "internet experts" you should just call the installer of the equipment.

 

[Reach4]

A "big tank is an aerator tank"
B (edited) Elbow feeding water input of the Water Guard
C I don't know. Check valve, injector, sample port, micronizer???
D Pressure tank #1
F Pressure gauge bottom
G Pressure switch
J Pressure tank #2 connected via M
L Pressure gauge top
N Brine tank for softener
O Media tank for softener
P Valve for softener.
Q Sediment drain for A
T Drain line for softener
U Brine line softener valve to brine tank

Whatever C is, I expect it has a check valve plus something else.

Clearly this system is not in NY.

Since I cannot see inside that Water Guard, I can only guess there is a booster pump inside.

Water Guard?

 

[Bannerman]

Water Guard?

WG name appears to be molded into the side of 'A'

Item 'C' appears very similar to a solenoid controlled valve, similar to that used for irrigation zoning control.
The wiring into the side ('R' ?) appears to be connected by a Grey cable to the wall box located directly behind 'L'.

 

[JerryR]

A little snooping and looks like installer is Water Medic in Cape Coral FL https://watermedicofcapecoral.com/

If this were my system I’d call and request a service call for a tech to come out and check out the system and explain how it works and how to maintain it. Price of a service call should be not much.

Looks like Water Medic has a salt delivery service. Do you use them? If not you may want to subscribe to the service. In central Florida our well company comes by monthly and only charges for bags of salt and gallons of chlorine added. $10/bag of salt and $8/2.5 gal of chlorine. It averages out to only about $20/mo. On the salt delivery visit they reset timers if needed, inspect aerator tank is functioning properly and add chemicals.

When we bought our remote cabin I paid for a service call to educate me on the operation of the system. It was well worth the $75 call charge.

 

[Jim Bob]

The big tank is an aerator tank. Look at Water Medic's website.

Maybe instead of asking "internet experts" you should just call the installer of the equipment.

Eh, trying to learn it for myself thats all. If I cant figure it out then I will call.

 

[Jim Bob]

View attachment 63190
A "big tank is an aerator tank"
C I don't know. Check valve, injector, sample port, micronizer???
D Pressure tank #1
F Pressure gauge bottom
G Pressure switch
J Pressure tank #2 connected via M
L Pressure gauge top
N Brine tank for softener
O Media tank for softener
P Valve for softener.
Q Sediment drain for A
T Drain line for softener
U Brine line softener valve to brine tank

Whatever C is, I expect it has a check valve plus something else.

Clearly this system is not in NY.

Water Guard?

Florida and well water

 

[Jim Bob]

View attachment 63190
A "big tank is an aerator tank"
C I don't know. Check valve, injector, sample port, micronizer???
D Pressure tank #1
F Pressure gauge bottom
G Pressure switch
J Pressure tank #2 connected via M
L Pressure gauge top
N Brine tank for softener
O Media tank for softener
P Valve for softener.
Q Sediment drain for A
T Drain line for softener
U Brine line softener valve to brine tank

Whatever C is, I expect it has a check valve plus something else.

Clearly this system is not in NY.

Water Guard?

Btw, thanks for the pic it really helped.

Do you know why there is two pressure tanks tho?

 

[Reach4]

Btw, thanks for the pic it really helped.

Do you know why there is two pressure tanks tho?

Not sure, but I could make guess or two. Suppose C includes a check valve, and there is no pump. The second tank could insulate the house from pressure pulses from the irrigation.


If there is another pump, that would call for another pressure switch. Best practices would put the pressure switch near pressure tank #2. We see no wires, plus, you would have commented on the second pressure switch.

Where is the pipe to the irrigation? Is there another pipe to/from the system on the concrete pad that we don't see? In particular, does A have another unshown pipe? Or is there a pipe at Q that goes somewhere?

 

[Bannerman]

Do you know why there is two pressure tanks tho?

IF item 'C' is an actual solenoid controlled valve, closing that valve would isolate the well pressure tank 'D' from the faucets and fixtures downstream of 'A'. While pressure tank 'J' would provide some initial water dowstream, the question is, what controls the operation of 'C' causing it to open and allow PT 'J' to refill?

 

[LLigetfa]

My guess is that inside that Water Guard to the right, there is a booster pump which would explain the top gauge reading higher than the bottom one. That also matches with the bottom gauge dropping to 10 when the sprinklers are on. Also explains why there is the top gauge.

I guessed right. Item C has no wires so cannot be a solenoid. It appears to be a micronizer.
https://actionmfg.com/product/outdoor-aerators/

 

[Reach4]

It appears to be a micronizer.

That must include a check valve.

There appears to be a port on the upper left, that gets fed somehow.

 

[LLigetfa]

Item C has no wires

Correction. On a closer look, I do see a grey wire. The aeration appears to be done with spray nozzles.

 

[LLigetfa]

Looks like you have a submersible pump in a well somewhere that works with that blue pressure tank.

The pump in the well feeds the tan coloured tank. The pump in the aeration tank feeds the blue tank.

 

[Reach4]

How would you explain tee B?