Hi everyone. I'm not a plumber but I play one on TV LOL. Actually I'm a homeowner who is doing his own basement finishing. I had a hard time finding a plumber so I did my homework and ran my own Wirsbo water lines, bought the tool and everything.
Anywho, my problem is getting my toilet installed correctly. It's a long read but detailed ;-)
My house was built last year (07). The builder roughed in the (3"?) drain line and when they poured the cement on the basement floor, they went right up to the pipe. I managed to level the cement so the flange fits down flat on the concrete. Since I couldn't use a closet flange that fits on the outside of the pipe I went with one that fits inside the pipe.
I hope that all makes sense so far. So now with the flange glued down I fitted the toilet on the flange (dry fit) and there is a little gap between the toilet and the floor in a few spots. Easy enough I thought, I bought some toilet (white rubber) shims and got the toilet to fit fine without rocking (again this is prior to actually putting it down with the wax seal).
So I installed the wax ring (with a black plastic insert in the middle of it). When I wiggled and pushed down the gap was even bigger, the toilet was higher off the floor! I couldn't get it to fit down nicely so I gave up. That was yesterday.
My brother-in-law stopped by today (he has his own construction company). He looked at it and we discovered the black plastic in the middle of the wax ring was causing the problem with the toilet not being able to fit down with only a little gap. So....
I bought a new wax ring, the kind that's just wax with no plastic thingy in the middle. However before installing I noticed that the toilet itself is rubbing on the closet flange and so it's transferred a bit of black plastic to the bottom of the toilet. See the photo called toilet1.jpg.
My questions are as follows:
1. Can I grind down the toilet porcelain at all to help the toilet fit flush against the floor? I will grind off just a smidge off the edge of the flange toward the front of the toilet, that will be easy.
2. Should I use MONO, acrylic, or silicone to seal the base of the toilet? Does it even matter?
Also see toilet2.jpg attachment, you can see the flange installed.
Anywho, my problem is getting my toilet installed correctly. It's a long read but detailed ;-)
My house was built last year (07). The builder roughed in the (3"?) drain line and when they poured the cement on the basement floor, they went right up to the pipe. I managed to level the cement so the flange fits down flat on the concrete. Since I couldn't use a closet flange that fits on the outside of the pipe I went with one that fits inside the pipe.
I hope that all makes sense so far. So now with the flange glued down I fitted the toilet on the flange (dry fit) and there is a little gap between the toilet and the floor in a few spots. Easy enough I thought, I bought some toilet (white rubber) shims and got the toilet to fit fine without rocking (again this is prior to actually putting it down with the wax seal).
So I installed the wax ring (with a black plastic insert in the middle of it). When I wiggled and pushed down the gap was even bigger, the toilet was higher off the floor! I couldn't get it to fit down nicely so I gave up. That was yesterday.
My brother-in-law stopped by today (he has his own construction company). He looked at it and we discovered the black plastic in the middle of the wax ring was causing the problem with the toilet not being able to fit down with only a little gap. So....
I bought a new wax ring, the kind that's just wax with no plastic thingy in the middle. However before installing I noticed that the toilet itself is rubbing on the closet flange and so it's transferred a bit of black plastic to the bottom of the toilet. See the photo called toilet1.jpg.
My questions are as follows:
1. Can I grind down the toilet porcelain at all to help the toilet fit flush against the floor? I will grind off just a smidge off the edge of the flange toward the front of the toilet, that will be easy.
2. Should I use MONO, acrylic, or silicone to seal the base of the toilet? Does it even matter?
Also see toilet2.jpg attachment, you can see the flange installed.
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