Toilet for a heavy TP user and occasional clogger?

Discussion in 'Toilet Forum discussions' started by MFfan310, Oct 12, 2009.

  1. MFfan310

    MFfan310 New Member

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    The main toilet in our house, a 1992 3.5 gpf Mansfield (the one with the rectangular tank and the plastic valve instead of a flapper), is facing a significant challenge as of late: A male member in the household is either giving it dual flushes or clogging it up.

    When he takes a download, he uses TP (the thick cushy stuff, Charmin Ultra Soft, Cottonelle Ultra, or the like... the cheap stuff is like sandpaper to him) and a lot of it. And to top it off, he adds those Charmin moist flushable wipes to the mix. All this plus the ol' dump presents a challenge for the old Mansfield... we have to dump a bucket of water down it at least once a month to get out the clogs.

    So, I'm looking at replacing the toilet with something that can get the whole job done in one flush without clogging... preferably a two-piece gravity-fed model (it's next to a bedroom, so pressure-assist is not a good idea). ADA/comfort height would be good as well, and I don't have a brand preference as long as it works and it is a quality product. A WaterSense toilet would be nice, but not mandatory. And it has to have a $450 or less average price (lower is better)... we're not willing to pay too much of a premium.

    Any suggestions?
     
  2. Cookie

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    Three options I can see:

    1. New toilet
    2. New TP
    3. New husband? :)
     
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  4. Terry

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    Tall bowl and Eco?

    TOTO Drake ADA, CST744EL
    or
    TOTO Drake II, CST454CEFG

    Pair these with a softclose SS114 seat and you have it.

    Toilet Paper Poll
     
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  5. Runs with bison

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    Terry, you meant elongated and not Eco, correct? The ADA, standard 1.6 gpf, elongated seem to have the best MaP ratings.
     
  6. Dunbar Plumbing

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    What you've stated is that you're wasteful. I would imagine you're spending well over $400 in toilet paper alone, along with 1000's of gallons of water.


    This is a more appropriate solution to your situation, along with the toilet recommendation. I'm sure there's a benefit to buying both at the same time.
     
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  7. Ian Gills

    Ian Gills Senior Robin Hood Guy

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    I am sorry, but that sort of toilet paper used in those sorts of quantities will block any toilet, even the ones suggested here.

    Less paper or the thinner stuff. Those are the options before you consider a new toilet. He can keep the wipes though.

    I should know. I'm just like him. ;)

    You might want to suggest he starts with the wipes and ends with the paper. He'll use a lot less paper that way.
     
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  8. Gary Swart

    Gary Swart In the Trades

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    He's definitely using the wrong type of paper. I have found the best paper is a sold as a house brand by many chain stores. In my area that's Safeway and Albertson's, but I'm sure Kroger's and other large chains sell the same paper under their house names. Safeway calls there Softly. I would still advise a new toilet.
     
  9. Terry

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    I like the bidet seat or washlet suggestion.

    Lot's less paper with those.

    [​IMG]

    Toilet Paper Poll
     
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  10. Ian Gills

    Ian Gills Senior Robin Hood Guy

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    I might get a bidet seat for my basement toilet when I install it.

    I have located a recepacle near where the toilet will be for this purpose (ready to be wired to a dedicated bathroom circuit). I am so gonna slap one of these babies on a Cadet 3.

    Questions: Can this be run off the cold supply? I will not need to run hot water for this will I? Or even a second cold? How does it heat the water and where does that water come from?

    [​IMG]

    Another question: I see there are lots of options. What's the top of the range?
     
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  11. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    I think it uses a T off of the supply to refill the toilet. It has a built-in heater to warm the water.
     
  12. Terry

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    It uses the same water supply that the toilet uses.
    The seats come with a tee, so all you need is an outlet to plug into.
    The seats come with a 3 foot cord.
    It's almost like a simple seat replacement, and you wind up with a bidet and dryer.

    [​IMG]

    The INAX Lucense pictured is pretty top of the line.

    TOTO makes some that fit their toilets that have auto opening and flushing. Those would be the S400 series.

    The Neorest 500, 550 and 600 come complete with washlet.
     
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  13. Ian Gills

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    Thanks. I'll be back for that one.
     
  14. Cass

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    The Caroma Caravel has a 4" trapway and will flush about anything...
     
  15. Terry

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    Adding a washlet to your toilet

    I had an extra washlet, so I thought I would install it today and show Ian the tee that fits on the inlet of the fill valve.
    I was just talking to the nurse at the U of W in Radiology anyway, and it was suggested that I use one of these
    So nice!

    [​IMG]

    It's the older C100 model, not quite as modern as the others I'm selling.
    I have a BioBidet 1000 that I may put in the other bathroom.

    TOTO SW2034#01 C100 WASHLET Electronic Bidet Toilet Seat, Elongated, Cotton White

    [​IMG]

    Ian, here is how it's connected.
    Just plug this baby in and go!

    [​IMG]

    These are the parts that come with this washlet.
    The plastic mount allows you to remove the washlet for cleaning,
    Just takes a second to pop it off, or pop in on.

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