Shallow stab well low water pressure solution help needed

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  1. Lawrence Gearhart

    Lawrence Gearhart New Member

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    I've got a cottage on Lake Michigan, the cottage sits up from the beach about 50 steps. At the beach level is my well pit with a 1 1/4" well. Forgive (and correct) me if I use the wrong terminology. There is a 1 1/4" pipe coming up from the ground going to a 1/2HP Berkley pump and there is also a well mate 2m9 29.5gallon pressure tank in the pit as well.

    I've never had good water pressure and it just seems worse now. I've got an excellent supply of water from the well as my well pit is at the water level of the lake a couple hundred feet away. The pressure switch is set to on at 20, off at 40. My pump can barely get to 40psi but it eventually does and turns off. When it gets down to the cut on psi of 20 I have basically no pressure in the cottage so I thought since I am losing 20psi climbing the hill why not set it to 40/60. Problem is the well pump won't get my pressure over 40psi so I was wondering what are my options? Do I need a stronger pump? If so how big should I go? Is it something else? Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.
     

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  5. Lawrence Gearhart

    Lawrence Gearhart New Member

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    Without measuring I'm guessing I'm drawing water from just a couple feet down the pipe. Really appreciate the information from both of you.
    I'll be back up there tomorrow and I'll remove that plug and use a piece of wire to see if the jet is plugged and clean it out, if that's not the case what else could I try to get better pressure?
     
  6. valveman

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    You need a J5SH Goulds so you can use a pressure switch setting of 50/70, to get 40/60 at the house. Even then the swing in pressure from 70 to 50 means sometimes you will have good pressure in the house (70 at pump) and other times you will have low pressure in the house (50 at pump). A CSV makes the pressure stronger by maintaining 65 constant at the pump, which will give you 55 constant at the house.
     
  7. Lawrence Gearhart

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    Thanks for the advice, what is a CSV?
     
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    You haven't done much searching on this forum have you? :)

     
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    The forum search does not let you search for words smaller than 4 letters.
     
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    Guess I need to quit abbreviating Cycle Stop Valves. LOL
     
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    Searching for csv* works, but people are not going to figure that out. A search for CSVs returns references to when people used that plural. Maybe Taylor could configure to allow searches for 3-letter words. That would be the best. It would also let people search for pvc, abs, awg, nec, upc, ipc, and so forth.
     
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  13. Lawrence Gearhart

    Lawrence Gearhart New Member

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    Sorry, apologize for not digging deeper into CSV on google. As it turns out, Reach4 was right. I pulled the middle plug and low and behold the jet center was plugged up, poked it clean, put the plug back in and wallah, pumped right up to 55psi in no time! Thanks again everyone for your help.
     
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