Sincraft
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Had a pipe burst in the ceiling of our finished basement. 7/8" cpvc. From the coupling to about 1cm outward into the pipe. The coupling did not fail, the pipe failed. Inside the pipe the crack looks bigger than the outside. Very hairline but enough to POUR water into the room Thankfully the ceiling was drop acoustic tile.
I went to a big box store, and they said it was because they used purple primer, they should have simply used cleaner and medium orange and that would have set things up nicely. Apparently they used purple oatley primer and heavy duty orange for commercial use.
I've been reading tonight, and can't find what the correct thing is to do. Some plumbers online are saying what the big box store said, that if you use this stuff you are screwing it up. Purple is for PVC and to start the softening process for cement and then the fittings.
Others say, cleaner, then purple primer, then orange cement.
While others also say, that without purple showing, the enforcement or inspector will see this and red flag, so purple all the way.
Bottom line is, I'm uncomfortable with plastic in this finished basement. They did a crappy job spurring out with fitting crooked into the main line spur with a T. Very amateur looking and sloppy. WAY too much solder used and it spurs from our MAIN 3/4" line. Very scary. On top of that, they used plastic all throughout the finished basement. Looking at their copper work, I can't imagine they did very well on the plastic.
Maybe they simply stepped on the end of the tubing, or assumed that they didn't need to inspect it prior to installing it. Personally, if I were a plumber I would never use this garbage without a complete bore light inspection. Time saved not soldering should at least partially be spent on inspection as this product lends to damage prior to installation resulting in callbacks and likely lawsuits. Screw that.
The reason why I think maybe it was a crushed pipe was that it was at the end run of a pipe at a coupling. And if it wasn't stepped on, maybe it was crushed on a pallet or by a pallet jack. Which concerns me that others may exist. I could BARELY see the hairline crack AFTER I cut it out, and had to see it by inspecting the inside too. IF I was just doing an inspection I would have never have seen it. Unless I had a higher intensity light in there showing the hairline crack, it would have gone unnoticed and thus installed. Personally, because of this, if I were forced to use plastic, I would cut off the first 6" every time to waste. Just my 2 cents here, sorry a bit frustrated with this issue, the possible loss of money, the loss of confidence and worry about taking vacation from the home.
I'm looking to invest some in a home automation system with alerts and water / smoke alarms linked to phone/email/text.
Sigh.
I went to a big box store, and they said it was because they used purple primer, they should have simply used cleaner and medium orange and that would have set things up nicely. Apparently they used purple oatley primer and heavy duty orange for commercial use.
I've been reading tonight, and can't find what the correct thing is to do. Some plumbers online are saying what the big box store said, that if you use this stuff you are screwing it up. Purple is for PVC and to start the softening process for cement and then the fittings.
Others say, cleaner, then purple primer, then orange cement.
While others also say, that without purple showing, the enforcement or inspector will see this and red flag, so purple all the way.
Bottom line is, I'm uncomfortable with plastic in this finished basement. They did a crappy job spurring out with fitting crooked into the main line spur with a T. Very amateur looking and sloppy. WAY too much solder used and it spurs from our MAIN 3/4" line. Very scary. On top of that, they used plastic all throughout the finished basement. Looking at their copper work, I can't imagine they did very well on the plastic.
Maybe they simply stepped on the end of the tubing, or assumed that they didn't need to inspect it prior to installing it. Personally, if I were a plumber I would never use this garbage without a complete bore light inspection. Time saved not soldering should at least partially be spent on inspection as this product lends to damage prior to installation resulting in callbacks and likely lawsuits. Screw that.
The reason why I think maybe it was a crushed pipe was that it was at the end run of a pipe at a coupling. And if it wasn't stepped on, maybe it was crushed on a pallet or by a pallet jack. Which concerns me that others may exist. I could BARELY see the hairline crack AFTER I cut it out, and had to see it by inspecting the inside too. IF I was just doing an inspection I would have never have seen it. Unless I had a higher intensity light in there showing the hairline crack, it would have gone unnoticed and thus installed. Personally, because of this, if I were forced to use plastic, I would cut off the first 6" every time to waste. Just my 2 cents here, sorry a bit frustrated with this issue, the possible loss of money, the loss of confidence and worry about taking vacation from the home.
I'm looking to invest some in a home automation system with alerts and water / smoke alarms linked to phone/email/text.
Sigh.
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