Can an American Standard Champion 4 be converted?

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  1. Mark SC

    Mark SC New Member

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    I bought and installed an American Standard Champion 4 with the 1.2 (?) gallon flush. I'm not happy with it because the flush valve needs changing and it doesn't have enough flushing power. I was going to change the flush valve but the fill hose is a different size than the universal kit uses, which I can always find a piece of hose that will work. I won't to convert it to a 1.6 standard flush if possible. Is there a kit out there to change it? There is at least 3" of water under the flapper that is not being used. Any help would be appreciated. I really don't want to buy a whole toilet if I can avoid it.

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  2. Terry

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    If this is a two piece toilet where the tank bolts to the bowl there is a solution.
    Korky makes a 3" flapper flush valve replacement that works on the Champion.
    I would pick up their kit that has a fill valve by Korky too. You will then be able to use more of the water in the tank.

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  4. Mark SC

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    So..., basically, I have to take the tank completely off before installation of this kit. I thought it came with a 4". I could be wrong. I'll admit I haven't taken a close look, but I will when I get home. Thanks for the response!

    I just realized there's another whole forum for toilets.
     
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  6. Mark SC

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    It will require removing the tank, right?
     
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    Never mind. The answer is yes. Just two bolts.
     
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    Check to see if it has an adjustable flapper. My cadet pro had a adjustable flapper and after adjusting to max it works perfect. Never have to double flush.
     
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