water level drop

Discussion in 'Shower & bathtub Forum & Blog' started by johnfrwhipple, Dec 25, 2011.

  1. wilkinte

    wilkinte New Member

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    The 2 inch is the issue. To get 2 inches I need to tear out more tile. Kerdi fix not a good soln?
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    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    KerdiFix would work. While other products might work, I think you'd be better off with the Kerdifix, if you can't just do it like a normal joint - make the patch as big as you can over the tear and get as much thinset off as possible in that area.
  3. wilkinte

    wilkinte New Member

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    thanks much for the reply Jim,
  4. johnfrwhipple

    johnfrwhipple Bathroom Design & Build - North Vancouver, B.C.

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  5. wilkinte

    wilkinte New Member

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    versabond was used, kerdi is stuck like a champ everywhere I "strategically" removed tile, save for that breech. Thinking I was too aggressive cleaning out the thinset after busting up that tile. So maybe a kerdi fix patch over the cut (it's about 1/2 inch), let it cure a few days, then do a thinset patch over the whole area. Versabond kills my warranty anyways from what I understand so not sure how Herr Schluter will help.
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    johnfrwhipple Bathroom Design & Build - North Vancouver, B.C.

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  7. wilkinte

    wilkinte New Member

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    now that's some counsel! I made little chips in those 2x2 tiles because the boss of me wasn't pleased. And she'll never even use that shower! Thus taking the bastards up. Now after all is said and done, and retiled what about doing another leak test before grout. Just to be sure...
    Plan would be to let everything cure for a couple days after retiling (and after the repair) and flood it. Any benefit there? Then if I do that how long to wait until grout. Thanks again sir,
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    johnfrwhipple Bathroom Design & Build - North Vancouver, B.C.

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  9. wilkinte

    wilkinte New Member

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    Big red show vs big crescent wrench! Thanks again.
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    Hi John,

    were you able to get updated pictures? Also, I read that the top of the curb needs to be at least 2" high from actual shower floor?

    thanks,
    Leo
  11. johnfrwhipple

    johnfrwhipple Bathroom Design & Build - North Vancouver, B.C.

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    Sorry Folks - I have taken down my post on Schluter's products. Just being careful with my wording.

    There is very little info online on the subject of flood testing a Kerdi shower. I have used Kerdi now on many shower builds and have so for years (about 13). I follow the European installation protocol and over the last 16 months flooded many Kerdi showers. None dropped in level at all. Not a 1/8".

    Your key steps is measuring the water level exactly and ensuring you get no capillary wicking. To learn how to do this call Schluter or call me. My number is below. I have documented the process over and over and have dozens of detailed photo's showing the measures I take so you do not fail this oh so important step.
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  12. johnfrwhipple

    johnfrwhipple Bathroom Design & Build - North Vancouver, B.C.

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    Low Curb Shower Examples

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    2" above top of shower drain, a standard code for US?

    leo
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    johnfrwhipple Bathroom Design & Build - North Vancouver, B.C.

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  15. loudgonzo

    loudgonzo New Member

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    This is from our county website, page 3
    Section 417.5 Shower floors or receptors; amended to read as follows:

    Floor surfaces shall be constructed of impervious, noncorrosive, nonabsorbent and waterproof materials.

    Thresholds shall be a minimum of 2 inches (51 mm) and a maximum of 9 inches (229 mm), measured from top of the drain to top of threshold or dam. Thresholds shall be of sufficient width to accommodate a minimum twenty-two (22) inch (559 mm) door.

    Exception: Showers designed to comply with ICC/ANSI A117.1.

    http://www.wylietexas.gov/departments/building_inspection/docs/2012_Final_Local_Amendments_IPC_2013.docx
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    johnfrwhipple Bathroom Design & Build - North Vancouver, B.C.

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    sure, here you go:

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    Wylie Municipal Complex, 300 Country Club Rd., Building 100, 2nd Floor
    Hours: Monday - Friday, 8:00 am - 5:00 pm CT
    Phone: 972.516.6420
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    johnfrwhipple Bathroom Design & Build - North Vancouver, B.C.

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    Wylie Municipal Complex, 300 Country Club Rd., Building 100, 2nd Floor Texas

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  19. loudgonzo

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    Thanks John,

    I'm not so concerned with having a curbless shower as I am with getting a lower than 6" kerdi curb. So what I will do, is use the kerdi pre sloped pan and use bricks instead of the foam curb. I will look into getting a solid curb top instead of tiling the top of curb; and then try to set to the minimum height of 2".

    the pan is about 1 1/2" thick around the perimeter; so after tile and with the thickness of the solid curb top, I think the outside height of the curb could be closer to 4".

    Also, I think that by using a solid curb top, if it overhangs a little bit, it will make the curb as a whole look less "boxy" and more aesthetically appealing.

    Leo
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