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This is interesting. I didn't even know thermostatically controlled valves existed.
More TRUTH is said in jest
About your remark
"Yeah it's dangerous, and that's why by next year in NYC, it will be required that a licensed plumber be present to turn on the water and adjust the temperature each time a tenant showers"
Your not too far off mark as part of my contract is to go back TWICE a year to re adjust the setting for the summer and winter to 106- 108 deg F
This is for a 27 story co op that has over 768 shower body's I will be replacing
Think about it twice a year 768+ shower body's being adjusted @$80 each to allow for temperature fluctuations during the summer and winter .
Five (5) of the board members are lawyers and they are the ones who decided it is cheaper to hire a LMP then have one lawsuit because of personal injury ... here are many children and elderly living there
If the handymen touches the shower valves all warranties are void and they have the liability of any legal action
Sewer cleaning actually NETS more but when your older you can appreciate being an expert as it requires no physical work other then driving to the site.
The more lax the building owners are and the more non licensed idiots do the installations, master plumbers can reap amazing compensation especially if they charge knowing what they are worth
I was told when I was given the case where two toddlers died I could expect over $250,000 for my appearance at depositions and going to court court not counting the funding I already received .
As long unscrupulous landlords and DIY people are out there along with non formally educated plumbers who screw up there is a gold mine for those who are qualified to be an expert
Not all cases involve someone getting hurt or killed some are just testifying against non licensed people dabbling in a licensed profession for example boiler installations or lack of qualified inspections of heating , plumbing , fire suppression systems
One of my bigger accounts was the postal service where I did all the low pressure boiler and unfired pressure vessel inspections even as far as Hicksville LI main post office
$350 per boiler twice a year internal and external Hicksville was a lot more because of traveling time and it failed the first external inspection on one boiler so I had to go back and reinspect them
The reason I gave up the post offices
I had 138 boilers just in the Bronx ,and had Manhattan, Brooklyn, Staten Island and LI and I did not trust my employees to do a proper inspection and it was physically impossible to do a bi yearly inspections of all these boilers and pressure vessels hydrostatic pressure testing and safety valve testing twice a year
The town of Lawrence LI I took a master plumbers test (took almost 20 minutes to pass) and was able to go there for one day at a small shopping center to inspect 7 roof drains that someone installed .
The owner of the property paid me $7,000 to send in a 4 page report as to why the installation was faulty .. A computer store was flooded out and the landlord was looking for to get out from being suit
The reason I took the took test was to show credibility of being locally licensed so if I had to appear in court I would show I knew their local code as NYC codes were to much more stringent for the town
With more lawsuits coming down the pike stricter codes will be required to protect people from themselves as the invaders from 4th world countries never heard about hot water it would seem
I am now working for 3 nursing homes redoing the domestic hot water supply on a T&M basis and I have people working 7 days a week and at night for shutdowns
A lot people do not realize what plumbing encoumpases .
Also being an ex stationary engineer helps with knowing the inner workings of commercial buildings as I was a certified stationary engineer at 90 Church street so I know for personal experience how moons are lawsuits looking to happen this was one of the deciding factors that convinced me to work as an expert
We live in a society where everyone is a victim and expects someone else to take care of them from birth until death with the give me I am entitled mentality and personal responsibility is unheard of for people under 40
Free food (stamps) free housing (section 8) free medical ,free college , stay home and get paid to breed etc.
Interesting you bring this up small world. I have been retired since 911. But my partner who just retired was on that job was Hunts Point don't even have to look at the link. He told me about it and still does. I am telling you that you have no idea how it affected him. I can't tell you how many 911 calls I have been to for burns to children from scalding. I can also tell you how the parent is tried to be blamed for child abuse. Yet IMHO when being in the apt. Be it a family in a shelter, city housing or even private house. Looking around how things were around the house. Showing how caring and devoted these parents or care givers were to these kids. There is no way these people deliberately burnt their children. Some were stupid leaving their kids in a bath tub for just a couple of seconds. To go deal with something in another room. But thats all it takes In most of the calls I was on it was the exception to the rule. I spent 2 yrs Downtown Manhattan and Midtown and 10 yrs in Harlem. Then the Bronx and finally Rockaway. You knew when an adult or a caregiver was responsible for doing something on purpose to their child. I was a Medic in Chicago in some of the worst areas of South and West Chicago. The Cabrini Projects, and the same was true there. Still it always seemed the city or landlord tried to pin it on child abuse.
I am no plumber a handy guy yea. I came to this site for advice on something to do with my new Navien combi boiler. Just started looking at different posts. But I started life out has an auto mechanic in Rockaway. Became an automotive design engineer/mechanical engineer. Then took a 180 turn and went into the Emergency services profession. I remember every child abuse case, shooting, stabbing and burn case I have been on over 23 yrs. I went to many of those children's funerals. The memories this post has just brought up.
This is awkward, but...
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