Dan Charrois
New Member
Hi there. I have a Gould's 1/2 HP 4" submersible well pump with a Franklin 2801054915 1/2 HP pump controller, which is turned on and off manually (for watering lawn and gardens, so no pressure switch or pressure tank - just wired directly to 230V power with a switch). The pump is not in a well, but rather in a creek (well screened from debris) so there's never an issue of the water level running low. It's worked fine for at least 5 or 6 years with no issues at all.
However, it's recently began cutting in and out - it pumps for 2 or 3 minutes then turns off for a minute or two, then starts again.
I figured that maybe there was some debris in the pump itself causing the motor to potentially overheat, so I pulled the pump out and took it apart to clean. But I needn't have bothered - there wasn't any significant amount of sludge inside, and there was no obvious binding to either the pump or motor - everything is rotating freely. It should have no shortage of water for cooling the motor - it's in a box with external screens but they're definitely clean. But after putting the pump back and rechecking the electrical connections, it's still acting up in the same manner... even when I pump water with several sprinkers open (more than usual) so it should have a relatively easy job with very little back pressure.
Down at the pump, I notice that it "stutters" for a few seconds before turning off when it does this. And I've just noticed that the control box in the house "buzzes" quietly just as it starts and then for those few seconds while the pump is stuttering and then turning off for a minute or so.
Could the QD relay in the control box be suspect? Though I know it has a relay, triac, and reed switch inside, I haven't been able to find an internal schematic of the QD relay to check and see if it may be consistent with this type of fault. I'm trying to sort out if perhaps the connection from L1 to Black within the relay may be cutting out intermittently causing the buzzing and ultimately causing the pump to shut down for a minute or so before starting up again.. or if the thermal overload in the motor is turning things off, which in turn is causing the buzzing in the control box.
I'm hoping I can just replace the relay (or control box) to fix the problem rather than the entire pump if people think this symptom isn't necessarily a problem with the pump itself. On the other hand, if the pump has to be replaced, I'd also prefer not to replace the control box as well
Any suggestions?
Thanks! Dan
However, it's recently began cutting in and out - it pumps for 2 or 3 minutes then turns off for a minute or two, then starts again.
I figured that maybe there was some debris in the pump itself causing the motor to potentially overheat, so I pulled the pump out and took it apart to clean. But I needn't have bothered - there wasn't any significant amount of sludge inside, and there was no obvious binding to either the pump or motor - everything is rotating freely. It should have no shortage of water for cooling the motor - it's in a box with external screens but they're definitely clean. But after putting the pump back and rechecking the electrical connections, it's still acting up in the same manner... even when I pump water with several sprinkers open (more than usual) so it should have a relatively easy job with very little back pressure.
Down at the pump, I notice that it "stutters" for a few seconds before turning off when it does this. And I've just noticed that the control box in the house "buzzes" quietly just as it starts and then for those few seconds while the pump is stuttering and then turning off for a minute or so.
Could the QD relay in the control box be suspect? Though I know it has a relay, triac, and reed switch inside, I haven't been able to find an internal schematic of the QD relay to check and see if it may be consistent with this type of fault. I'm trying to sort out if perhaps the connection from L1 to Black within the relay may be cutting out intermittently causing the buzzing and ultimately causing the pump to shut down for a minute or so before starting up again.. or if the thermal overload in the motor is turning things off, which in turn is causing the buzzing in the control box.
I'm hoping I can just replace the relay (or control box) to fix the problem rather than the entire pump if people think this symptom isn't necessarily a problem with the pump itself. On the other hand, if the pump has to be replaced, I'd also prefer not to replace the control box as well
Any suggestions?
Thanks! Dan