Under house drain problem

[chuckd83]

Ever since I bought this house, there has been a sewage smell outside on one side. I finally figured out why.

This pipe is coming from the kitchen (top left of photo) and goes toward the city sewer (bottom left). There are two clean outs(?) that have no cap. It's almost like they are taped on the top.

Well, one of the tape jobs failed and the sewage just comes out of it. This is because the pipe is sloped in both directions towards these "clean outs."

What could have been the thought processes here? Why the clean outs? I suppose the solution is to delete the clean outs and suspend the pipe from the floor joists in order to get proper pitch?

 

[Plumber69]

This job is a plumbers worst nightmare

 

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[Reach4]

It looks to me as if those were attached at some point to a pipe above and fell. Anything right above those ends?

 

[chuckd83]

This job is a plumbers worst nightmare

I'm not even going to call a plumber since I know they'll rape me just to crawl through sewage. I'm thinking of getting some thick plastic to put down over it before even beginning.

 

[chuckd83]

It looks to me as if those were attached at some point to a pipe above and fell. Anything right above those ends?

No, there's nothing.

 

[hj]

quote: I'm not even going to call a plumber since I know they'll rape me just to crawl through sewage.

They will NOT "RAPE", but they will charge extra because of your "haz mat" situation. AND THEY SHOULD.

 

[Reach4]

I cannot imagine an innocent explanation as to how that came to be that way.

Those certainly don't serve as cleanouts. They don't carry sewage toward the sewer. I am thinking to cut the pipes away from the leaking ends and cap with cleanouts.

Those cleanouts won't actually be very accessible, but they will be at least as useful as ones on the ends of those pipes in the photos.

Harbor freight tarps would be good to crawl on.

 

[chuckd83]

quote: I'm not even going to call a plumber since I know they'll rape me just to crawl through sewage.

They will NOT "RAPE", but they will charge extra because of your "haz mat" situation. AND THEY SHOULD.

I don't disagree. Rape was the wrong term.

 

[chuckd83]

I cannot imagine an innocent explanation as to how that came to be that way.

Those certainly don't serve as cleanouts. They don't carry sewage toward the sewer. I am thinking to cut the pipes away from the leaking ends and cap with cleanouts.

Those cleanouts won't actually be very accessible, but they will be at least as useful as ones on the ends of those pipes in the photos.

Harbor freight tarps would be good to crawl on.

Thanks.

 

[Dj2]

First you want to dry the area, use a fan or two. At the same time, don't use your plumbing, or you will have these puddles again.
Then re-work the drain pipe with the proper slop and correct hangers for support.

 

[chuckd83]

Well I got under there last night. Disgusting. Put a 10 mil tarp from Home Depot down and went to work. I plugged the two tees and hung the pipe from the floor joists. However, I couldn't get a proper slope.

These are photos of the pipe coming from the kitchen drain. It goes from 1-1/2" to 2". I plan to remove all of the 45s coming from the top fernco and just do a sweeping 90 to 2" so I can raise the pipe up. You can see the existing 90 is an elbow. Also noticed the floor joists have termite damage (?) and not resting on anything.

This is on an outside wall. Should I do a comb wye and 1/8 bend on its back and poke it through the outside wall for an easy clean out?

 

[Reach4]

This is on an outside wall. Should I do a sanitary tee and poke it through the outside wall for an easy clean out?

Sanitary tees should not be used to pass drainage except when the side port is horizontal and the top port is vertical up and the bottom port is vertical down.

For use where transitioning drainage from vertical to horizontal and introducing a cleanout to extend the other way, use a wye and a 45 or a combo.

Regarding a cleanout outside, sounds useful. I think such cleanouts are more common where there are no hard freezes, although I don't know if there would be a problem in a hard-freeze area.

 

[chuckd83]

Sanitary tees should not be used to pass drainage except when the side port is horizontal and the top port is vertical up and the bottom port is vertical down.

For use where transitioning drainage from vertical to horizontal and introducing a cleanout to extend the other way, use a wye and a 45 or a combo.

Regarding a cleanout outside, sounds useful. I think such cleanouts are more common where there are no hard freezes, although I don't know if there would be a problem in a hard-freeze area.

Thanks. I guess I edited my post the same time you replied. Use a combination wye and 1/8 bend, right?

This?
https://www.homedepot.com/p/2-in-PVC-DWV-All-Hub-Long-Radius-Sanitary-Tee-C4812LHD2/100345170

 

[Reach4]

That name "2 in. PVC DWV All-Hub Long-Radius Sanitary Tee" bothers me a bit. That looks to be the right thing for your purposes.

I see Nibco calls that a "Long Radius Combination Tee-Wye ", so yes definitely it would be good.
http://www.nibco.com/Fittings/Plast...Radius-Combination-Tee-Wye-H-x-H-x-H-PVC-DWV/