Sewer backs up. How to find and fix my plumbing issue?

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paulmars

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I'm hoping not to have to hire a plumber again, although I think that I will. Any ideas what is happening here?

1951 house I bought and been living in since 1986. Twice between 1986 and 2012, the main sewer line got blocked by roots and i paid for a professional to snake it out. After the 1st time, I left the drop open (covered by loose wood) so if it backed up again, it would come out in the yard and not in the shower again. That made clean up much easier when it got clogged a 2nd time years later.

Then many years later, in 2017 we had/have another issue. This time it was just a main line slow down. It cleared up and then slowed down two more times in less then 30 days. During these slow downs it did back up out the drop into the yard. Between the 2nd and 3rd slow downs, the toilet, sink, and shower in one bathroom backed up. I fixed these with a plunger in the toilet. Then a week or so later the main line got fully blocked and I had to call a plumber who cleared it out (Aug 2017) and said that the block was just 20 to 40 feet from the drop. He stopped snaking when the clog cleared.

Then about 2-3 months later the bathtub in the main bathroom occasionally gurgled for about two weeks. I plungered it several times. Then the main line got clogged again and backed out the drop. This time when the plumber came (Nov 2017) i had him snake all the way to the city pipe, which is a few hundred feet. Then all was fine...Until a few days ago that I smelled a stink in the garage, but just one breath. Sniffing around trying to smell it again and I cant. that happened many times for 3 days. Each time it is just one wif in the exact same area of the garage, one wif, then it is gone. I smelled the wood covered drop and nothing. Then I started smelling it, but much stronger at the window in the main bathroom. I sniffed and smelled nothing at the toilet, sink, and tub drain. So, I went outside and cant smell it on the outside of that window. This window is near the drop. About 10 feet from the window I get a week wif of this stink. I get down and I cant be sure, but I think its coming from the ground. I walk all over this area and it is not mushy or caving in. This went on for a few days. Strong smell inside the bathroom by the window, no smell outside by the window, weak smell in yard about 10 feet from the window (where the main line might be), no smell at the drop and no backup at the drop. Also, no smell from the toilet, sink, or tub drains.

Then last night I took a shower in the main bathroom and the drain backed up. I had to plunger it several times before it drained. Since then no smell...anywhere. I had showered the last few days which was after i started smelling stink in garage and the drain worked fine then.

This seems obvious that it is the tub pipe before it reaches the main (maybe same area of yard where I smelled the stink), although when i 1st got the smell in the garage the tub drain in main bathroom was working and no stink at bathroom window. Also, if this is related somehow to all the issues since Aug. 2017.

BTW these four times are the only times I've had a plumber here and I'm sure that I've used my plunger less then 10 times since I moved here.

I'm thinking that maybe I should dig up the yard. I still might need to call a plumber, but if I can save the labor by finding the issue and clearing away the dirt and later filling it in, that is good, however, I do sometimes make larger then needed projects out of things. The last time plumber came, he said 500$ to run a camera thru the line to find any pipe issues and then 1/2 of the 500 will go toward any work done. maybe I should just do that. I do need to move on this because I really dont want to wait for the main to back up again. Money is tight so any way I can reduce my expense is good.

Note diagram heart is where I sleep and that grey window is always open and I never smelled anything.

Thoughts?

pa
 

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If your drain pipe has never been replace since the house was built, it is almost certain it is a clay pipe that had collapsed plus tree roots braking it up. After 65 years it will need to be replaced. A good plumber should have a scope to run it through the pipe looking for breaks.

The odor source is always hard to track down but just run water at all of the sinks to be sure the traps are full of water. A good chance the odor is coming from your so called drop.
 

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hire a plumber to dig out and replace the entire sewer pipe. Make sure he installs a 4" two-way cleanout new the house. Make sure he puts the riser high enough up so idiot landscaper don't BURY the cleanout. You need a new sewer. Period. Probably a $3500-$4000 job.

If you want to go it on the cheap and do it yourself, you can hire a backhoe guy for $500 or less to dig the whole thing for you and to come back after the job has passed inspection. (tell the backhoe operator what you're doing and if he doesn't have A LOT of experience digging sewers, call a different guy). If you call your local plumbing supply store (fergusons) the counter guys should be able to give you the name of a backhoe guy who digs for plumbers.

CALL FREE LOCATING SERVICE before you dig or your backhoe guy won't break ground. Pull homeowners permit and ask the inspector to meet you out there to advise what he wants to see when he comes back to inspect.

Don't piss away $500 on cam work. Spend your money on fixing the problem permanently.
 

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I feel the same way as above answers on this one for all reasons. Around here we put ABS and stop having root problems.

Friendly advise: If you have no experience replacing main line, hire a pro.

How long is your run to the street?
Do you know how deep it goes?
 

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I would pay the plumber to snake out your line and then do a camera inspection of the entire line to confirm that the pipes are not partially blocked up.




 
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