Sealing a concrete basement floor before tiling

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  1. jameshorn

    jameshorn New Member

    Jun 24, 2005
    :D Well, here goes. Water is seeping up under the vinyl tile from the 40 year old basement concrete floor. Carpet had originally covered this mess. I have had drains installed outside the house, but it has not affected the seepage.

    I would like to remove the vinyl tile and clean and seal this concrete floor and then have ceramic tile installed. What is the best way and products to use to clean and seal the floor so that the water does not cause the ceramic tile to separate from the concrete after it is installed?
  2. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

    Sep 2, 2004
    Retired Systems engineer for defense industry.
    New England
    You have to control the hydrostatic pressure under the house or you'll have problems. Once the thinset cures, it is impervious to the water - it won't cause the tile to pop off, but if it is wet while you try to tile, you may not get a good bond. Water will still seep through the grout and maybe the tile, depending on the type of tile. The drain system that was installed doesn't appear to have solved your problem. You really need to resolve that prior to deciding on a new floor. My unprofessional opinion.
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  4. jimbo

    jimbo Plumber

    Aug 31, 2004
    San Diego, CA
    There are some products such as WaterLoc which do a pretty good job of sealing. But nothing will ever stop the hydrostatic pressure you have. Even if the sealer works, the water will find the tiniest cracks and come through. Unless you can lower the water table under the slab, you will be wet.
  5. Master Plumber Mark

    Master Plumber Mark Master Plumber

    Feb 6, 2005
    Sensitivity trainer.. plumber of mens souls
    indianapolis indiana - land of the free, home of
    dig a sump pit

    honestly if you have water comming up
    in your basement floor and youi have no
    inside drains, yoiu had better install a few
    and drain them to the new sump pump pit
    you are going to have to dig.

    Or at the very least dig a sump pump pit about 30 inches
    deep somewhere down there or you will do all this
    to no avail....t

    try to figure out where the lowest spot on the floor
    is and if it is feasable to put one there , start digging.

    dril a ton of holes through the pit at from about 10 inches off the
    bottom and all the way to the top lid to allow sub surface water
    to seep into it and it will do what you want it to do...

    keep the basement dry and the new tile from floating away
    or moulding away....

    its the only sure cure for your situation...

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