Nwin
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I'm in Connecticut in a house built in 1988 with it's original Burnham single stage oil boiler with a becket burner. I have baseboard heat with 3 zones and for hot water, there's a coil in the boiler from what I've been told, so no tank.
It and the oil tank are end of life so I'd rather replace it before it becomes a problem.
Most companies have touted the 3-stage Viessman boilers with an indirect 40-gallon water tank. They have all said I'd need to look into getting a chimney liner. The average cost for the boiler has been around $13k plus an extra $2500 for the Chimney liner.
One plumber spoke with me and said I didn't need any of that. He still sells/installs/owns and swears by the New Yorker single stage boilers because 1) I save money on the boiler which would be around $8-9k, 2) I don't need a chimney liner, 3) they run forever and he loves them. For hot water, he recommends a separate electric water heater and says it should only charge me about $12-15 a month for hot water versus the unspoken amounts I'm spending right now using oil in the summer for my hot water.
I like what he's saying and it makes sense to me after thinking about it. He says his New Yorker can produce 87% efficiency which is close to the Viessman 3-stage oil. Plus I save about $6k doing this. Running the numbers, it would take me quite a while to recoup that $6000 in oil costs if I went with the Viessman plus the chimney liner. I also like that I could basically turn off the boiler during the summer since I wouldn't use it for hot water at all.
What are the thoughts here? I have no access to natural gas, I've played around with Propane but the quotes for the system + tank are looking to be about $17k plus and there's not a whole lot of savings using Propane right now when I compare pricing. My house is 2000 square feet, two stories with an unfinished basement. My Air conditioner also has a heat pump which I plan on using to help heat the house during the winter to save money on oil.
I've thought about a hybrid electric water heater but we're considering finishing the basement at some point so I'm concerned with it getting too cool in the winter time which means I'd need to add a source of heat to the basement...maybe I won't need to do that if I keep the hybrid water heater out of the equation.
It and the oil tank are end of life so I'd rather replace it before it becomes a problem.
Most companies have touted the 3-stage Viessman boilers with an indirect 40-gallon water tank. They have all said I'd need to look into getting a chimney liner. The average cost for the boiler has been around $13k plus an extra $2500 for the Chimney liner.
One plumber spoke with me and said I didn't need any of that. He still sells/installs/owns and swears by the New Yorker single stage boilers because 1) I save money on the boiler which would be around $8-9k, 2) I don't need a chimney liner, 3) they run forever and he loves them. For hot water, he recommends a separate electric water heater and says it should only charge me about $12-15 a month for hot water versus the unspoken amounts I'm spending right now using oil in the summer for my hot water.
I like what he's saying and it makes sense to me after thinking about it. He says his New Yorker can produce 87% efficiency which is close to the Viessman 3-stage oil. Plus I save about $6k doing this. Running the numbers, it would take me quite a while to recoup that $6000 in oil costs if I went with the Viessman plus the chimney liner. I also like that I could basically turn off the boiler during the summer since I wouldn't use it for hot water at all.
What are the thoughts here? I have no access to natural gas, I've played around with Propane but the quotes for the system + tank are looking to be about $17k plus and there's not a whole lot of savings using Propane right now when I compare pricing. My house is 2000 square feet, two stories with an unfinished basement. My Air conditioner also has a heat pump which I plan on using to help heat the house during the winter to save money on oil.
I've thought about a hybrid electric water heater but we're considering finishing the basement at some point so I'm concerned with it getting too cool in the winter time which means I'd need to add a source of heat to the basement...maybe I won't need to do that if I keep the hybrid water heater out of the equation.
