Help Identifying Old Shower Valves

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  1. Oldfaucet

    Oldfaucet New Member

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    Hello, everyone. I am a longtime lurker, first time poster. I hope I am posting in correct forum, if not my apologies.

    I am trying to identify this old shower/bathtub valve system so I can get some parts to stop it from dripping when the valves are shut off. I know the top handles have been replaced, but the lower handles are original. The valves probably go back to the late 80s, early 90s, I would guess, but not sure.

    faucet 1.jpg faucet 2.jpg faucet 3.jpg

    Any help is greatly appreciated.

    Thank you.

    Vinny
     
  2. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    They MIGHT be Chicago with bonnets like that but probably not. Would need a photo of one of the stems removed from the valve. 1890s?
     
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  4. Oldfaucet

    Oldfaucet New Member

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    Lol.

    I will attempt taking it apart in the coming days and will post a pic of the stem.

    Thank you again, HJ.
     
  5. Reach4

    Reach4 Well-Known Member

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    When you pull the stem, look inside. You may see a square or hex hole. That would be the seat, and you would unscrew that with a seat wrench.
     
  6. Oldfaucet

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    You think these old valves will have seats that can be removed and replaced? I am afraid sourcing parts may be difficult. I am going to try taking one apart next week just to look at the parts, measure them and see if I can get them at HD.

    Thanks.
     
  7. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    When you take it apart post a picture of the stem.
     
  8. Oldfaucet

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    Will do.
     
  9. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    waiting for them
     
  10. Oldfaucet

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    Sorry for the delay, had the pellet stove quit on me and some kind of critter stumping around on the roof. Any way, took it apart and replaced the washers. The ones on there were in bad shape and they were labeled 3/8L. I only had 3/8M on hand and used that as a short term fix. I didn't even want to try removing the seats, but the square side of the seat wrench seemed to fit. Anyway, here are some pictures.

    This is the valve with the replacement clamp-on-handle because the handle threads on the stem are worn out.
    valve 1.jpg

    Here it is apart.
    valve 2.jpg

    Some measurements
    valve 3.jpg

    valve 4.jpg

    This is the cap that screws onto the fitting that sticks out the wall
    valve 5.jpg

    The inside measurement of that fitting. I counted about 4 threads on it.
    valve 6.jpg

    On the valve stem I counted about 6.

    If any one recognizes them, or what I could use as a replacement valve stem, please let me know.

    Thank you.
     
  11. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    Sterling is one of the few manufacturers who used that "high shoulder", and they also use that style packing nut/cap so I would suspect that is who made yours.
     
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    Thanks, HJ, I'll start looking.
     
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