AO Smith Softeners at Lowes?

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  1. AZR

    AZR New Member

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    I saw that AO Smith has partnered with Lowes and will start selling softeners and other water treatment devices at Lowes. I checked out their site and saw two products, a softener:

    https://www.aosmithatlowes.com/products/water-softeners/ao-wh-soft-400t/
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    and a salt-free descaler/softener:

    https://www.aosmithatlowes.com/products/water-filters/whole-home/ao-wh-dsclr/
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    Does anyone have any insight into these products? I have had good luck with AO Smith water heaters, but didn't know they made softeners.
     
  2. ditttohead

    ditttohead Water systems designer, R&D

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    LOL, 8 gpm Service flow rate at 15 PSI drop. Good luck with that one. Looks like another "Lowest Bidder" unit that looks pretty.

    Salt free softener... nice try. It is a scale reduction unit... we manufacture thousands of these, their performance is nothing like a softener. Most people honestly cant even tell if they are installed or not.
     
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    Master Plumber Mark Master Plumber...and babysitter of morons...

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    Smith makes shitty water heaters, especially the ones sold at lowes...

    Here is a peice of junk we are taking out tomorrow morning.....
    I guess you could also call this a de-scaler too...

    I wonder how much the sucker paid to have this junk installed
     

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    ditttohead Water systems designer, R&D

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    Nice glue on the PVC pipe work... hillbilly 101. :)
     
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    I was not even sch 40 pipe...
    I smacked it with a pair of channel locks today and it all shattered...
     
  7. AZR

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    Sounds like a no go then :)
    Thanks for the info.
    I just wish Lowes or Home Depot would sell a good quality device. It would make it so much easier if you could drive out and pick something up and know you're not buying junk.
     
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    Master Plumber Mark Master Plumber...and babysitter of morons...

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    DITTO...I threw that tank away this morning and for kicks I decided to see what the resin looked
    like in this chamber......

    Took the top off and poured it out on my lift gate.... only to find
    that the unit was just full of water and had only a coffee cans worth of some kind of clear sand
    left in the bottom of it..... Either they got screwed by someone or the chlorine in our water had totally disintegrated the resin bed over time......
     

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    ditttohead Water systems designer, R&D

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    That is probably the magic media that anti-scale systems use. It is basically an anion resin that has been modified. That stuff is the most expensive media we stock, and does it work? I am still waiting for someone to show me a way to test the water after it goes through the media. I have seen it have some affect in some applications but not consistently enough to actively push it.
     
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    Master Plumber Mark Master Plumber...and babysitter of morons...

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    Thanks.... I dont see how it could have worked considering what you see in the picture is all that was in the
    whole tank.....

    did you see the other questioin I sent you about another brand someone wants??
     
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