Advice on basement Drain Locations please!

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Hello all,

I'm planning a basement bathroom/laundry/bar sink/floor drain at my home in S. Minneapolis.

Question: How else would you change this to run things more efficiently, or break up less floor?

1. I need to have backwater valves protecting the fixtures, and don't want them in the middle of the floor in the bathroom or hallway. Best would be in the laundry room, or if needed, the bathroom along a wall or in a closet.

2. The main 4" stack starts from the bottom of the picture nearly flush with the bottom of the concrete, so I don't believe I can cross over that 4" horizontal anywhere in the bath area, assuming 1/4" per foot slope without the top of the pipe crossing over being into the concrete floor.

3. I can move the toilet to opposite side of the room if needed.

4. The bar sink would be 1 1/2" or 2" and would go through the stud wall until it crosses the stack and join up with the tub and other line.

5. Venting: essentially, I have a 1-1/2" cast iron vent that exits to the roof, but it also picks up the 1st floor bath/lav/toilet, so I'm assuming I can't use that. Any clever ways of getting this setup to vent properly by merging closer to the stack with a circuit vent setup or other plumbing magic?

Thank you SO MUCH for the help!

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