jenraider72
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UPDATE
***Job is done... First pic is before, rest are after job completed He did it in less than an hour; used the water hose I had and it looks like he put the same p trap and nuts back on but I guess that doesn't matter. Total cost for job which I said I'd pay cash for: $225.00. That's a lot better than the first estimate, and it is the easier route rather than the "raising the t through the wall" route. If I get some water up through the drain when the dishwasher runs,which he said would likely happen, I really don't care, as long as it isn't damaging anything. I think it was fair and I think he should hopefully be happy making that for less than an hour of work. Pictures above of finished work as well.*****
So, my husband was a mason by trade-union member since early 80s and he could do basically anything as far as home/auto repair. He also redid many areas of the house such as the basement, master bed/bathroom etc. He did all his work without cutting corners and everything looks professional. He passed away 2 months ago after a year long battle with cancer. Now i find myself in a foreign situation in that i need a plumber, as I will not ask anyone for help since my husband was the one who everyone called when they needed something fixed because he could do it all. We never asked for help. So I will pay. I got a great deal on a dishwasher and paid for it with installation. The old unit in the house was here from before my husband bought the house from his parents, and it never worked properly since before I moved in 15 yrs ago. At some point, the pipe below the sink basket which would have had the waste line branch was removed altogether. There is copper piping running to the old dishwasher which I guess is still attached. I figured this is a simple change I can do myself and I bought parts from Lowes/HDepot. I wanted to use another metal pipe, but alas I can't find a pipe cutter big enough in his tools. So, plastic-fine. Nope. I can get that pipe in place, but then the trap no longer lines up with the line that runs from the wall. It's like a 2 in gap I need to fill. Can't find anything to make the conection from trap to the flared end of the pipe that used to just attach to the trap. Also, the exit side of that trap is shallow and no pipe can really get seated in it far enough anyway. So I have all these pieces that I cannot use and I called for an estimate.
Nice guy from larger company(didn't realize they were a bigger company) comes and sees the problem. He says he can do it the "non kosher" way and not warranty it for $495. This also includes changing that copper water line as he says it will be too large for the new dishwasher. (I went out and bought an 8 ft stainless steel water line for that connection now). He says that to do it correctly, he needs to go behind the wall-move stove- and raise the tee. This would cost around $995. The written estimate does not mention the water line though, like it does in the cheaper estimate below, but i hope it included that. This guy was very nice and said that his company is actually a bit on the higher end , pricing wise and i should call a cheaper plumber. I appreciated that and did so.
Call other place and woman answers and i describe above and what the initial plumber said. She said it sounded like i "got a good one" as far as the plumber went. She says she can have her guy come Mon or Tues and she'll put it in for an hour to maybe and hour and a half of work and that they charge $150. / hour plus parts. says the guy will call me on weekend and set it up. No call. no one comes Mon or Tues and I don't call until Tues afternoon and nicely leave a message because i read horror story reviews of people not being called back by plumber or plumber's phone rep having a "you don't like it call someone else" type tone. Now a few hours later the plumber himself calls me and i explain everything and he says he can come tomorrow and once again makes sure I know he's $150/hr plus parts. Ok I say, but do you give an estimate for free? He says, well i have to come to that town anyway so i'll probably be able to do it all tomorrow and yea, i'll come take a look. I must say that he did not sound pleasant, which makes me nervous.
I also called a third place today after i didn't hear back from #2 and i left a message but hadn't heard back before or after plumber #2 called me back.
UPDATE
***Job is done... First pic is before, rest are after job completed He did it in less than an hour; used the water hose I had and it looks like he put the same p trap and nuts back on but I guess that doesn't matter. Total cost for job which I said I'd pay cash for: $225.00. That's a lot better than the first estimate, and it is the easier route rather than the "raising the t through the wall" route. If I get some water up through the drain when the dishwasher runs,which he said would likely happen, I really don't care, as long as it isn't damaging anything. I think it was fair and I think he should hopefully be happy making that for less than an hour of work. Pictures above of finished work as well.*****
So, my husband was a mason by trade-union member since early 80s and he could do basically anything as far as home/auto repair. He also redid many areas of the house such as the basement, master bed/bathroom etc. He did all his work without cutting corners and everything looks professional. He passed away 2 months ago after a year long battle with cancer. Now i find myself in a foreign situation in that i need a plumber, as I will not ask anyone for help since my husband was the one who everyone called when they needed something fixed because he could do it all. We never asked for help. So I will pay. I got a great deal on a dishwasher and paid for it with installation. The old unit in the house was here from before my husband bought the house from his parents, and it never worked properly since before I moved in 15 yrs ago. At some point, the pipe below the sink basket which would have had the waste line branch was removed altogether. There is copper piping running to the old dishwasher which I guess is still attached. I figured this is a simple change I can do myself and I bought parts from Lowes/HDepot. I wanted to use another metal pipe, but alas I can't find a pipe cutter big enough in his tools. So, plastic-fine. Nope. I can get that pipe in place, but then the trap no longer lines up with the line that runs from the wall. It's like a 2 in gap I need to fill. Can't find anything to make the conection from trap to the flared end of the pipe that used to just attach to the trap. Also, the exit side of that trap is shallow and no pipe can really get seated in it far enough anyway. So I have all these pieces that I cannot use and I called for an estimate.
Nice guy from larger company(didn't realize they were a bigger company) comes and sees the problem. He says he can do it the "non kosher" way and not warranty it for $495. This also includes changing that copper water line as he says it will be too large for the new dishwasher. (I went out and bought an 8 ft stainless steel water line for that connection now). He says that to do it correctly, he needs to go behind the wall-move stove- and raise the tee. This would cost around $995. The written estimate does not mention the water line though, like it does in the cheaper estimate below, but i hope it included that. This guy was very nice and said that his company is actually a bit on the higher end , pricing wise and i should call a cheaper plumber. I appreciated that and did so.
Call other place and woman answers and i describe above and what the initial plumber said. She said it sounded like i "got a good one" as far as the plumber went. She says she can have her guy come Mon or Tues and she'll put it in for an hour to maybe and hour and a half of work and that they charge $150. / hour plus parts. says the guy will call me on weekend and set it up. No call. no one comes Mon or Tues and I don't call until Tues afternoon and nicely leave a message because i read horror story reviews of people not being called back by plumber or plumber's phone rep having a "you don't like it call someone else" type tone. Now a few hours later the plumber himself calls me and i explain everything and he says he can come tomorrow and once again makes sure I know he's $150/hr plus parts. Ok I say, but do you give an estimate for free? He says, well i have to come to that town anyway so i'll probably be able to do it all tomorrow and yea, i'll come take a look. I must say that he did not sound pleasant, which makes me nervous.
I also called a third place today after i didn't hear back from #2 and i left a message but hadn't heard back before or after plumber #2 called me back.
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