GrumpyPlumber
Licensed Grump
Grump....check your PMs
Done buddy, will do tomorrow...Pats season's a comin'!
Grump....check your PMs
Good mornin Lou I agree about Keyspan, they have us by the nuts, its a monopoly. So no I dont trust them. So I have the baseboards here, for free. Pex wont cost much to hook them up. So the money I save on the radiant idea I should put it towards a more effecient unit, correct?
You still need Circs, relay, electrician w/permits for the co detector (inspector will require it) as well as a myriad of other stock & hardware.
where did I make a mistake ? show me ? I guess my truck has a condensing motor because some of the exhaust condenses in the tail pipeLou, puuulllleease...condensing is condensing is condensing, I find it particularly funny that you tell me I need some schoolin' when I don't agree with your mistake.
now thats just funny. its old enough to get out of college and know a few things but thats about all. At least I don't always think I am rightI know that 50 is the new 40 and 30 is the new 20..so I guess 27 is the new 17, where you know everything there is to know about everything.
Thats nice glad you listen to some one.nhMaster is a licensed plumbing instructor & shop owner who's job is to stay well abreast of anything new for both, if he tells me something, I listen.
Telling me I need to get up to date with the new stuff is cute, I think as you proceed in your well informed debate you're likely giving many a quiet chuckle.
I'm nowhere near as old as you think, the picture I use isn't me.
If you don't know who that pic is, you missed my whole "schtick".
Hey Grump, I truly hope i am driving you guys crazy! I really aprpeciate the help!!! there is a 10 week wait to run the line to my house!! I am going to get the permits and paperwork ASAP.
-I will install radiant in my floor for future use.
- My old boiler which is on a slab (obv) is directly below the chimney. I know I need to install a SS chimney liner for it, or it wont pass code.
-I have a choice here. Either I slowly build the system I really want and possibly not have heat this winter OR build something in my budget and not have the effeiceny and choices I originally wanted???
I can slowly build the system with a kick ass boiler, I know it will be more then $6000 for everything. i will slowly build it up when money allows.
Am I crazy for thinking this? I am pissing you guys off? i hope not!
Lou, for once your figures make sense, $5500 sounds about right for stock only with a 2 zone and existing pipes in place.
I thought we both agreed long ago that $6,000 was not going to work.NOT in Ng's case, his stuff is ripped out, also it's a one pipe sytem that needs substantial work.
I think I may have mis added and its more like $900 a year in gas bills. If you don't believe me come over and I will show you my oil slips and gas bills. The mod/con always operates at peak efficiency and the savings add up.The $5k to $800 figure remains in question, though oil does have a substantially higher cost and your old boiler was no question short cycling, thats a bit off.
I understood all along he had a budget issue but it appears he has time on his side and can save up more money.Now, factor in the radiant and maybe you finally understand the dilemma Ng is in, having ripped out his baseboard...also the added work of re-installing the removed piping & radiators.
Correct. I do haver have college course work under my belt in heating system design and efficiency. I think this qualifies me to discuss the subject. I was also trying to show that these were not my ideas alone some one with more schooling then both of us thinks its the way to go.Your friends acheivements have nothing to do with you, your not an expert via exposure.
The simple fact that you stand your ground about the buderus not condensing at higher temps says you haven't even called him with the question and are just name throwing to win a debate.
Call him and ask.
If not, call Buderus tech support, they're fantastic with questions.
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