WJcandee
Wise One
Do you have anything to offer on that subject or do you just use this site to expound upon your favorite moral, social and political theories?
For someone who has been participating in this forum for 5 minutes, you need to throttle that attitude Waaaaaaaay back, Pal.
The whole debate about codes/laws started because Jim was trying to tell you that (a) it was technically illegal and (b) it might not pass inspection. Others thought you might be able to sneak it past your inspector, if you even have one. Jim thinks that saving water, in and of itself, is a good thing, as do many, many people. Just like many people think, with varying levels of extremism, that limiting consumption of fossil fuels is important. A lot of laws in the United States attempt to do that. Cacher Chick points out that she is free to buy, own, and operate a powerful truck because it is her choice to pay for the extra fuel. (Of course, Uncle Sam has forced up the fuel economy of those trucks over the years, so she wouldn't be free to buy a new one that was made to 1968 standards. And it's plain that the intensity of enforcement of laws regulating consumption and pollution of resources varies based on what US society as a whole thinks about it: water-saving laws nudge consumers and manufacturers towards goals, air pollution laws strike with a vengence, as Volkswagen found out when someone there tried to increase performance at the expense of a little more pollution.) This is the kind of discussion that I, for one, enjoy in this forum. Thankfully, this isn't the kind of highly-moderated forum where someone comes in and deletes posts to eliminate "thread drift". Thread drift is fine by me.
Most of us frequent contributors now have a history with each other, and while we might not always agree, and might be occasionally-crabby, most of us basically like and/or respect each other.
Jim is a longtime contributor to the site who has helped literally thousands of people with their questions, whether good questions or stupid questions. He is entitled to his opinions, and to express them here, because this is a COMMUNITY with active members who share their thoughts, even when they may rub some other members the wrong way.
In fact, the whole FORUM rubs a lot of people in the plumbing business the wrong way, because by helping people do the simple things themselves, Terry is -- God forbid -- sharing "secrets" that some in the Brotherhood would rather not see shared, so they can charge $90 labor and $30 in parts to come change a flapper, or, worse, charge to replace a toilet because the homeowner thinks that it is "broken" because the flapper has failed.
You are welcome to disagree with Jim. You are welcome to see if others can help you install your water hog. But keep the obnoxious comments and personal attacks ("For someone from New Hampshire...") to yourself.
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