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What are some common methods to treat turbidity, including each methods effectiveness and maximum capability, pros and cons? ie. sand filter, cartridge filter, Alum, H2O2, Cl injection etc.
 
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no thoughts? I was curious what you guys would recommend for different types of turbidity, such as, let's say, colodial clay,
 

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no thoughts? I was curious what you guys would recommend for different types of turbidity, such as, let's say, colloidal clay,
Moving?:(

Try putting colloidal clay into the search box above.
 

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have an example of that. working for another company we had a customer built a new house. well was 2 ft from the road which I found strange. anyway, water was terrible. tested 56 gpg, 20+ iron, off the charts H2S, methane, etc. they sold him a lot of equipment (won't get into specifics). anyway, it was a dry summer and then a week of constant rain. colodial clay presented and went off the charts. totally ruined most of the equipment and he sued them for like $50 k. company had a good contract which protected them. the experience though taught me the important a of a clause saying something to the effect of "not guaranteed as water quality can change". good learning experience
 

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Turbidity, colloidal issues etc is virtually indefinable. It is simply too broad of a term. Like tannins, turbidity is a description of a problem rather than an actual contaminant. Pilot testing is key unless you are aware of common causes/solutions that are common in your area.

The obvious solutions can be as simple as gravity filtration (settling) with the use of a contact tank, to as complex and alum injection, contact time, oxidation, and UF.

We have seen chocolate colored water turn crystal clear with a cheap 5 micron melt blown filter (they did not last long, but they were cheap), to problems that take a multistage approach. We work with a lot of companies to make them simple pilot test filters that can allow them to design an appropriate filter specific to their water quality problem.
 

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understood. was hoping for a larger discussion in relation to all types, however, I realize it might be too broad a topic. a previous employer used alum quite frequently for clay issues, so I was looking for opinions on alternatives such as multistage cartridge filtration (ie 10 mic, 5 mic, 1 mic in series) for people with cost or space limitations.
 

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understood. was hoping for a larger discussion in relation to all types, however, I realize it might be too broad a topic. a previous employer used alum quite frequently for clay issues, so I was looking for opinions on alternatives such as multistage cartridge filtration (ie 10 mic, 5 mic, 1 mic in series) for people with cost or space limitations.
I would save some big clear glass jars. Put the cloudy water in one, and let it sit where there is no vibration for a few days. If the water clears with sitting (starting at the top), then I think it is not colloidal clay.

If that 5 micron spun filter clears up the water, I think it's not colloidal clay. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Settling-time-for-particles-of-various-diameters_tbl1_267416897 has some interesting comments on settling time. You are not going to be using a 1 meter tall container, of course.

Flocculant would be a good search term for that think you were thinking of when you wrote alum.
 

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I would save some big clear glass jars. Put the cloudy water in one, and let it sit where there is no vibration for a few days. If the water clears with sitting (starting at the top), then I think it is not colloidal clay.

If that 5 micron spun filter clears up the water, I think it's not colloidal clay. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Settling-time-for-particles-of-various-diameters_tbl1_267416897 has some interesting comments on settling time. You are not going to be using a 1 meter tall container, of course.

Flocculant would be a good search term for that think you were thinking of when you wrote alum.
makes sense. thanks for the link :cheers :)
 
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