Help identify these shower stem cartridge valves?

[Densefogg]

Hi All,

Trying to replace old shower valves. Looked online and found some replacements that seem close but not this exact design, hoping someone here has encountered these before, and can identify make/model. They have outside thread for escutcheons but the owner threw those away long ago and they have now just caulked new escutcheons to the wall that were not intended for these stems. They also hacked off the stems and drilled holes in the shaft tip to install valve handles that were never intended for these stems. So no clue what original faucets/escutcheons looked like. Any ideas?

I found these 2 Price Pfister but how do I know which it is?

PRICE PFISTER

Faucet Parts Plus is your one stop shop for faucet parts.

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PRICE PFISTER REF# 910-373, 910-372

Faucet Parts Plus is your one stop shop for faucet parts.

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There are also these but how do I know if mine are 9H, 10I-8H, 12H?

DANCO 9H-1H/C Hot & Cold Stem for Price Pfister Faucets 15298B - The Home Depot

DANCO - 9H-1H/C Hot/Cold Stem for Price Pfister Faucets in Brass Finish - Metal construction with brass finish. Seat stem. For both hot and cold water. Compatible with Price Pfister faucets, not included.

www.homedepot.com

DANCO 10I-8H/C Hot/Cold Stem for Pfister Faucets 15302B - The Home Depot

DANCO - 10I-8 Hot/Cold Stem for Price Pfister Bath Faucets - Durable brass construction. RH hot and cold. Fits Price Pfister bath faucets. Fits Beaux Art models 10 and 12. Includes a seat. - THD SKU# 793575

www.homedepot.com

DANCO 12H-1H/C Hot/Cold Stem for Price Pfister Faucets 15716B - The Home Depot

DANCO - 12H-1h/c Hot/Cold Stem for Price Pfister Faucets - Constructed of metal. Brass finish. Fits Price Pfister Contempra and Contessa bath brands. Compatible with 01-010 to 01-380 models. Seat included.

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Thanks in advance!

 

[Breplum]

Not PP at first sight.
Need to pull the cartridge to see.
The gland/packing nut doesn't look like any PP I've ever seen.
What did the trim look like, though it may have been aftermarket adapted trim.

 

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[Densefogg]

Not PP at first sight.
Need to pull the cartridge to see.
The gland/packing nut doesn't look like any PP I've ever seen.
What did the trim look like, though it may have been aftermarket adapted trim.

Thanks @breplum, Unfortunately I don’t have original trim, previous owner of house used trim that was never intended for these valves. Next closest I could find is Central Brass, but even that doesn't look quite right:

DANCO 11C-5H/C Hot/Cold Stem for Central Brass Faucets | Tub/Shower Repair | Brass (17149B) - Faucet Stems - Amazon.com

DANCO 11C-5H/C Hot/Cold Stem for Central Brass Faucets | Tub/Shower Repair | Brass (17149B) - Faucet Stems - Amazon.com

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[Jeff H Young]

yep I'm not familiar with many brands but that packing nut looks different than price pfister . I'd pull one and check if compatible. buying in a brick and mortar store a bit more money . I'd pull one and go local , I really don't know who is good to go to for old stuff in LA gotta be some good hardware or plumbing supply nearby . If its the money you want to save pull it go try to match it up figure out what you have and order online

 

[Densefogg]

yep Im not familiar with many brands but that packing nut looks differant than price pfister . Id pull one and check if compatable

Thanks Jeff, and best guesses on another brand besides Price Pfister?

 

[Jeff H Young]

I don't know. A guy on here named MarlinMan is an expert and a tremendous help to many in ID'ing faucets and valves PP was so common that just about 90 percent of 2 handle valves that were old from before the 80s seemed like they all were. I've done mostly new work since the 80s and now I do repair but its mainly fairly new stuff.

 

[Densefogg]

Hi All,

Trying to replace old shower valves. Looked online and found some replacements that seem close but not this exact design, hoping someone here has encountered these before, and can identify make/model. They have outside thread for escutcheons but the owner threw those away long ago and they have now just caulked new escutcheons to the wall that were not intended for these stems. They also hacked off the stems and drilled holes in the shaft tip to install valve handles that were never intended for these stems. So no clue what original faucets/escutcheons looked like. Any ideas?

I found these 2 Price Pfister but how do I know which it is?

PRICE PFISTER

Faucet Parts Plus is your one stop shop for faucet parts.

www.faucetpartsplus.com

PRICE PFISTER REF# 910-373, 910-372

Faucet Parts Plus is your one stop shop for faucet parts.

www.faucetpartsplus.com

There are also these but how do I know if mine are 9H, 10I-8H, 12H?

DANCO 9H-1H/C Hot & Cold Stem for Price Pfister Faucets 15298B - The Home Depot

DANCO - 9H-1H/C Hot/Cold Stem for Price Pfister Faucets in Brass Finish - Metal construction with brass finish. Seat stem. For both hot and cold water. Compatible with Price Pfister faucets, not included.

www.homedepot.com

DANCO 10I-8H/C Hot/Cold Stem for Pfister Faucets 15302B - The Home Depot

DANCO - 10I-8 Hot/Cold Stem for Price Pfister Bath Faucets - Durable brass construction. RH hot and cold. Fits Price Pfister bath faucets. Fits Beaux Art models 10 and 12. Includes a seat. - THD SKU# 793575

www.homedepot.com

DANCO 12H-1H/C Hot/Cold Stem for Price Pfister Faucets 15716B - The Home Depot

DANCO - 12H-1h/c Hot/Cold Stem for Price Pfister Faucets - Constructed of metal. Brass finish. Fits Price Pfister Contempra and Contessa bath brands. Compatible with 01-010 to 01-380 models. Seat included.

www.homedepot.com

Thanks in advance!

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Hi @Marlinman I heard you’re good at identifying old stem hardware, any ideas on this one?

 

[Marlinman]

It is difficult to tell with any certainty. The cartridge will need to be removed. If this is a 3 valve you will need to remove the center diverter. Best guess at this point would be Central Brass. It does use a flat style packing nut.

 

[Densefogg]

It is difficult to tell with any certainty. The cartridge will need to be removed. If this is a 3 valve you will need to remove the center diverter. Best guess at this point would be Central Brass. It does use a flat style packing nut.

Thanks @Marlinman, it's just a 2 valve, no diverter, I was hoping to ID this without pulling it out but looks like I will have to. Thanks again.