Brass Champion/Superior Sprinkler Controller/Actuator Slow Drip

Discussion in 'Irrigation / Sprinkler Forum' started by mattchowla, Apr 23, 2019.

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Is it likely that the stem is the problem? And if so is there a repair option?

  1. No, stem is not likely the problem.

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  2. Yes, the stem is likely, but there is no repair option.

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  3. Yes, the stem is likely, and you can repair it by adding something to the stem (ky, etc.)

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  4. Yes, the stem is likely, but you need to replace the stem.

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  1. mattchowla

    mattchowla New Member

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    I've replaced all the rubber parts on my sprinkler controller (see the diagram of similar unit), but it still continues to have a very slow drip (inside the line). There's no visible water on the outside of the controller, but if I remove the anti-siphon cap I can see a slow drip. The unit doesn't make any noise during the slow drip, so it doesn't sound like the pressure above the diaphragm is being released causing the seat washer to rise.

    I suspected the seat might be damaged, but it feels smooth and I put another controller on it and it didn't leak.

    I replaced diaphragms on other units and they worked, so I think I'm doing that correctly.

    The brass unit looks in good condition. All the openings don't look corroded.

    Any suggestions? Is there anything else I should be looking at to see if the brass unit is irreversibly damaged? My only other thought is that the stem that connects the seat washer to the diaphragm is worn and too much water is getting in around it into the bottom of the diaphragm.

    Thanks!!!

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  2. WorthFlorida

    WorthFlorida The wife is still training me.

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    Sorry I'm not familiar with this unit. Like you say a drop or two per minute, after a few days minerals in the water may plug up this weep. During the rebuild did you remove the solenoid and cleaned up the area of minerals or debris? You can try getting a bottle of spray foam CLR cleaners. Soak the brass down and let it soak a while to dissolve mineral deposits.

    There are a few Youtube videos out there that might help but it sound like your assessment maybe correct.
     
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  4. mattchowla

    mattchowla New Member

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    Thanks, I'll try the CLR cleaner.
     
  5. mattchowla

    mattchowla New Member

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    I took everything apart and cleaned it, but there wasn't much if anything to clean off.

    One thing that's always puzzled me is how the stem can be hexagonal shaped and the opening is circular, so the area at the bottom of the diaphragm is not watertight. Wouldn't this cause the pressure to equalize just like when the solenoid is open?
     
  6. WorthFlorida

    WorthFlorida The wife is still training me.

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    I'm guessing now but maybe the water from the sprinkler side is siphoning back to the off/closed controller? By chance is that zone at a slightly higher elevation?
     
  7. mattchowla

    mattchowla New Member

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    Yes, the zone is higher elevation, though only by a few feet. Because of this, there's always a little bit of water backflowing to the anti-siphon on this zone. Do you think this is causing the problem? If so, how do I fix it?
     
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