JuanSigned
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About 3 years ago I replaced an old 5 gpf American Standard with a Toto Drake based 100% on the comments here. What I did not understand at the time was the hatred people expressed about their old toilets. My old toilet flushed well with only the occasional plug. Now, however, I understand what it is to hate a toilet. The Toto Drake is on my list of annoyances in life. (and if the Drake is that much better than what it replaces, well people you have my condolences, because those would have to be some pretty awful toilets) The Toto plugs about as often as the old toilet, but because of the funky opening a regular plunger doesn't work very well. But that isn't the real annoyance, I HATE the Drake because it has zero wash down. Everyone in the family avoids this toilet if a #2 is on the agenda. Any skid mark above the water line is there until the toilet brush is used to remove it. I've told my teenager that he wipes his backside and then he wipes the toilet. It's just plain nasty.
So ............... here is my problem. The remaining American Standards are being replaced, but with what? The Toto Drake is out of the question I will not buy another. The Drake II looks interesting with the cyclone rinse. Does it really work? Is there a toilet out there that flushes and removes skid marks? What is the best all around toilet? I don't care what it looks like, or even the cost, but I do care about flushing and not having to swab it out after every #2.
So ............... here is my problem. The remaining American Standards are being replaced, but with what? The Toto Drake is out of the question I will not buy another. The Drake II looks interesting with the cyclone rinse. Does it really work? Is there a toilet out there that flushes and removes skid marks? What is the best all around toilet? I don't care what it looks like, or even the cost, but I do care about flushing and not having to swab it out after every #2.