Dan Craft
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Ah, the joys of [old] home ownership: returning from holiday travels to find a toilet bowl with extensive cracking below the waterline, and black rock-like material oozing from the cracks...
After three days researching, I'm looking at the Toto Eco Drake CST744E (Terry, thanks so much for your list of standard-height Toto models), Kohler Wellworth K-3998-0, and American Standard Champion Pro. These are all standard-height, elongated bowl, two piece models, with 1.28 gal flush (CA mandated).
My question is about the depth of water at the, er, drop point. If there is too little depth, then it could be quite stinky without an additional courtesy flush, which thwarts some of the water saving. I like the design of the Kohler best, but I saw a negative user review pointing out this issue. I've watched flush test videos on the three models to the point my head is spinning, and it's too hard to tell.
If you have experience with one of these models, do you have any input on the issue of "stuff" remaining uncovered at the drop point?
In Consumer Reports, the American Standard scored the highest with an 81: Excellent solid waste rating, Very Good noise rating, and Excellent bowl cleaning rating [they tested the Champion 4 Max, which may have a different flushing system, so uncertain here, plus I don't like the styling as much]. The Toto Eco Drake was second with a 75: Very Good solid waste rating, Very Good noise rating, and Very Good bowl cleaning rating. The Kohler Wellworth K-3575 (which has the same bowl as the K-3998-0) was basically the same as the Toto with a 74: Excellent solid waste rating, Very Good noise rating, and Very Good bowl cleaning rating.
Oh yeah, Happy New Year!
After three days researching, I'm looking at the Toto Eco Drake CST744E (Terry, thanks so much for your list of standard-height Toto models), Kohler Wellworth K-3998-0, and American Standard Champion Pro. These are all standard-height, elongated bowl, two piece models, with 1.28 gal flush (CA mandated).
My question is about the depth of water at the, er, drop point. If there is too little depth, then it could be quite stinky without an additional courtesy flush, which thwarts some of the water saving. I like the design of the Kohler best, but I saw a negative user review pointing out this issue. I've watched flush test videos on the three models to the point my head is spinning, and it's too hard to tell.
If you have experience with one of these models, do you have any input on the issue of "stuff" remaining uncovered at the drop point?
In Consumer Reports, the American Standard scored the highest with an 81: Excellent solid waste rating, Very Good noise rating, and Excellent bowl cleaning rating [they tested the Champion 4 Max, which may have a different flushing system, so uncertain here, plus I don't like the styling as much]. The Toto Eco Drake was second with a 75: Very Good solid waste rating, Very Good noise rating, and Very Good bowl cleaning rating. The Kohler Wellworth K-3575 (which has the same bowl as the K-3998-0) was basically the same as the Toto with a 74: Excellent solid waste rating, Very Good noise rating, and Very Good bowl cleaning rating.
Oh yeah, Happy New Year!