This is a page by a plumber with over 40 years in the business.
I don't review baby food, car batteries or cell phone coverage. I don't pretend to be an expert on politics or religion.
What I do write about is my everyday life concerning construction and plumbing. Which I have to say, I'm expert in.
If you think that two guys that don't plumb, are fetish about staying clean and wear white lab coats would know more about toilets than the plumbers in the field, then I believe you should go with their research. Good luck.
Here are some comments from 2009
https://terrylove.com/forums/index....t-rates-american-standard-champion-4-1.29870/
Consumer Reports Best Buy, Eljer with PF/2
Terry,
What do you know about the Aquasaver by Eljer? Does it work better than the Flushmate?
I used one for a month. The bowl needs a redesign. Too much force from the siphon jet shreds the toilet paper and it floats back into the bowl after the flush.
The women in the house were a little freaked with the startling response when you pushed the lever down. And then it didn't take all the paper down, so they had to reflush. Terry Love
Which was pretty funny considering that
Consumer Reports gave this toilets their
Best Buy.
Next time they should let a homeowner use it first, it should have been "
Buyer Beware".
Over the last five years, everybody has been doing better. It wasn't CR pushing for better quality though. It was this page.
Quality control is still a big issue for plumbers. We don't get paid to return bad items. Items we have to return costs us. Nobody is covering our labor.
Consumer Reports tests with sponges and baby wipes. Both items should never be flushed and are useless for testing real world conditions.
I listen to comments by women and children. I consider whether you have a toilet near a bedroom, not a noisy warehouse setting.
I worry about getting parts later. Will I have to shim the bowl to keep it from rocking? Does the flush shred but leave bits of paper and poo in the bowl for the next user?
Some trapways work fine for sponges, but not so good for what is being flushed in the home.
Sometimes I will see a new product and know right away if there will be problems later. I point those out, and sure enough, those products get pulled and re-designed. Consumer Reports gives them a “Best Buy” and then never admits their mistakes.
That being said, I do need to update.
The latest Kohler products with the Aqua Piston are much better now.
The American Standard Cadet 3 is working. I would not bother with Champion, though that has been reworked too and will serve. Not a top choice though.
I sell a few Gerber, though as always, the pressure assist units are not as good as the Kohler pressure assist.
For quality control and performance, TOTO has been very good. Can you blame me for installing products that give me no issues?
What do you do for a living? Do you like your job easy? Or do you like to challenge yourself? I like easy.