Tile Tip of the Day - tidbits of info to help hone your skills

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  1. johnfrwhipple

    johnfrwhipple Bathroom Design & Build - North Vancouver, B.C.

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    Tile Tip of the Day

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    Look at the intersection of the backer board and the shower pan? What's wrong?

    The backer board is shown behind the shower pan. There is no plastic lapping the shower pan. With an install like this a topical approach to waterproofing should have been taken.



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    Look at the intersection of the backer board and the shower pan? What's wrong?

    The backer board is shown behind the shower pan. There is no plastic lapping the shower pan. With an install like this a topical approach to waterproofing should have been taken.
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    johnfrwhipple Bathroom Design & Build - North Vancouver, B.C.

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    eurob master tile and stone installer

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    Tip for Back Buttering the tiles --- Back Butter Buddy --


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    and is pretty resistant to loads

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  4. johnfrwhipple

    johnfrwhipple Bathroom Design & Build - North Vancouver, B.C.

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    If only the tile setter on this job had one of those five years ago!!!

    GraniRapid - one of the best setting materials. I set my exterior slate tile with that. Over NobleDeck. Awesome stuff.

    I got one of those Back Butter Buddies.... Even signed by the owner. He sent it for free to me months ago. Then I got a $35.00 import charge from the duty broker..... LOL so much for the free-be. It would have been cheaper to order one I think.... lol
  5. DougB

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    The key when you send between the US and Canada - declare it as a 'gift' or a 'sample'. This usually avoids duty.
  6. eurob

    eurob master tile and stone installer

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    Another tip is -- MLT system --

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    when used for tile or stone projects -- especially for large format tiles -- the outcome is much more predictable -- no lippage -- .

    This , by no means , takes away the preparation of the floor but makes it easy in keeping the ahhh moments -- that corner just dropped -- away from your worries .

    I've tried it -- set up , installation , removal -- and the concept is a first class experience .

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  7. RedShoecounterbalance

    RedShoecounterbalance Stay away from ladders

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    RedShoecounterbalance Stay away from ladders

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    The saw blade in my case would be a drywall tape knive, and it would be there to stop my angle grinder blade or coring bit from getting loose on me and damaging the vanity????

    just a guess. never tried a saw blade
  9. johnfrwhipple

    johnfrwhipple Bathroom Design & Build - North Vancouver, B.C.

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    The second Tile Tip is loaded into my second post - top of the page.

    Why do I have a Dental Pick in my hands?
  10. DougB

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    My God man! That's the worst plaque buildup I've ever seen. You should floss more often.
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    I hope you measured your grout mixture and can match/blend color!!!! Surely you used a scale and measure cups???

    You may get lucky w/ the dental pic and pop that sucker out and salvage most the grout. Its hard to do, removing one hex without disturbing the hex of them....rest!! Ive used small spade tile bits to drill out mini hexs w/pretty good luck .....ive used sharp tiny chisels with not so good results ...
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    The dental pick worked like magic! I was so impressed. The key to the tip is using something that won't rust. So the stainless steel is ideal for this type of repair. I popped out the two tiles in now time.

    Destroyed the dental pick! lol

    New tip back at the top.
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    johnfrwhipple Bathroom Design & Build - North Vancouver, B.C.

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    Yesterday's Answer: ( Images are posted on the first page at the top - daily )

    The red strip is the heating wire clips from NuHeat. The light brown material is Ardex 8+9. What tip can you learn from this picture?

    I learned that you need more 8+9 than a little coat. I tried a few options to see if this was a good idea and in the end was so so happy with the results. In the future I'll stick to mechanical fasteners since this approach was less than perfect.
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  14. eurob

    eurob master tile and stone installer

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    So , you made your own '' sticky '' thread ...LOL

    I use hot melting glue to attach the strips . Is this counting as a tip ?
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    johnfrwhipple Bathroom Design & Build - North Vancouver, B.C.

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    I had no hot glue gun with me that day. But I did have Ardex 8+9 to prep the tile over tile areas.....

    Sometimes the hot glue gives out. I thought I could get a great bond with the 8+9 since it would bulk up inside the voids in the mounting clip. It did but was a pain to do well.

    The parts I used a 1/2" artist brush to back butter worked the best.

    I gave the strips overnight to set up even!

    Held for roughly 98% of the install. The remaining 2% I held the wire in place with scrap tile and used poly as a bond breaker.
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    Above is an old photo of NobleSeal TS. On the left side are some pencil lines to help me pre crease the membrane prior to it going in. I want a 4 1/4" flap on the left side. I have this line marked and another at 8 1/2"

    Measuring the mark you need at double the distance allows you to fold to the line. When I measure to 8 1/2" I get a 4 1/4" fold.

    A simple tip that helps save time and make for more accurate pre-creases...
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    johnfrwhipple Bathroom Design & Build - North Vancouver, B.C.

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    What purpose does this water test serve in a shower build?

    The red box above is the evaporation control measure. This box gets set at the same time as the shower's flood test to measure evaporation.
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    johnfrwhipple Bathroom Design & Build - North Vancouver, B.C.

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    Yesterday's answer....

    What does this brick have and what does it do?

    The Brick has a course texture and tiny diamonds. It cleans and scratches very easily. Perfect for fine tuning and roughing up a surface for waterproofing or thin-set.
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    I am interested in hearing your logic for encapsulating the ply between two membranes. When I did an outdoor tile deck over a living space for a friend, I left a gap between the ply sheets for expansion. After exposing roof down to 2X6 T & G decking, I then built up with 3/4" ply spaced like you did, Peal & Seal membrane, backer board, Hydro Ban, then tiled over that.

    I used the Peal & Seal as a back up since it seals around the screws used to hold the backer board.

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