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Discussion in 'Computers and Stuff' started by jimbo, Apr 16, 2009.
We don"t need no stinking gun conrol!!!
"before it's too late"???
Um... why? What's going to happen? How will we know when "it's too late"?
The stores are dry, as far as ammo goes, around here. I'm ahead of the curve so to speak, but there are a lot of folks apparently scared. I've never seen a buying frenzy this bad.
And, what are they afraid of?
As I write this, I got to laugh because I am going to teach a course at my neighboring college on, how to deal with stress in today's economy.
That's what I'm trying to figure out.
Obviously, the whole "gun control" debate is a huge can of worms. I realize there are passionate people on both sides of the issue.
Lately, though, it seems like there's this irrational "end of the world" hyperbole going around... and I'm not even sure I understand the conspiracy theory, but it's apparently urging folks to stockpile guns & ammo. The lunatic in Pittsburgh also comes to mind, of course.
If somebody wants to have a say in the laws of our country, the way to go about it isn't to stock up on guns & head for the bunker.
We have a democracy: participate in it. Contact your congressmen & Senators; prepare yourself for rational debates with the people on the other side; represent gun-owners as intelligent & thoughtful citizens, not knee-jerk reactionaries.
(PLEASE NOTE: I'm not calling out accusations towards anyone here, just commenting on what I'm seeing in the world in general.)
That is the feeling I got from others like they think the sky is falling in.
They are afraid of recent comments made by Nancy Pelosi and Eric holder and the current media blitz claiming that 'guns are bad'. Media claims that "90%" of the guns seized in Mexico are coming from the US. That made up statistic is just laughable IMO. Well actually the fact is most people just see that anti-gun politicians are in control and are fearing another "Assault" weapons ban. People are getting them now before any they can't get them anymore. They are afraid of loosing (unconstitutionally I might add) their rights to keep and bear arms.
I personally see a gun ban or gun registration political suicide (and rightfully so) for any politician right now and an uphill battle for anyone. I think most politicians understand that and will not support any new legislation. I don't take it for granted though as nothing surprises me anymore. My reps and senators have heard my opinion on every anti-gun bill presented, along with other issues, and they always will.
I got plenty
I hope my house never catches fire...
It would sound like .......the fall of Saigon
till the fires burnt out...........
their is nothing to fear.... but fear itself...
people are getting way too paranoid and worried about things,
Obama or no one else is gonna take your guns away from you.
in the midwest , their is plenty of ammo
to go around.... go to any gun show and its very plentiful....
I could buy surplus AP ammo that could take down a helicopter ,
I dont really care to buy any......
and becasue of this freedom that our fore-fathers gave us
I doubt that anyone will ever be able to start a ruthless dictatorship
here either......it would be very difficult for someone like VP Dick Cheney
to try and pull off some day...
we all have lived through Dick Cheney, we will make it through this too,,,,,
Jimbo, are you calmed down yet? You are very quiet, ( you know its the quiet ones you got to watch) LOL... just kidding Jim,
There has been talk of a 500% tax on ammo which wouldn't ban it but would make it to costly for any one to buy...I personally don't think it will happen but this is part of the scare...The also are talking about registration of all guns and all sales of guns even private sales and this has always precedes guns being conficated...at least in other countrys...they will always say no they would never do that but it always happens that way... kinda like...like "hi, I'm from the government and I'm here to help you..."
I'm not picking on you here Mark, but I would like to point something out.
Our fore-fathers did not give or grant us any rights. As recognized in the Declaration of Independence we are 'endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights'
The government is not permitted to infringe upon these rights by law of the Bill of Rights.
Like I said, I'm not picking on or arguing with you. But I like to point out that these rights are not given to us by the government. They are recognized and not permitted to be infringed upon.
That is why Rights are given by the Creator...and only Powers are given to Government...A Right given by the Creator can never be taken away except by the Creator...
I don't need no stinking ******!!!
I was just pointing out what a lot of people are thinking about.....as soon as obama-san lulls us to sleep, puts GM out of their misery, puts Hillary in charge of Chrysler.....the next step is to start with the guns and ammo!
btw, I will be in Vegas for the next few days, and as Ron White would say..".one lucky pull on a slot and you'll never see my fat ass again!"
So you are saying you are fat? I hope you win a million and think of us here, lol. I put my dibs in for a grand...( I am not greedy)
Who else wants some of Jim's Winnings? Put yer dibs in now!
By the way, have a safe trip.
A global conspiracy for total control of this world's politic, religion and economy cannot be either proved or disproved, but the people (with the 'gold', of course) who actually run things do not need to "conspire" anyway. Rather, they just keep right on doing whatever they do ... and what the rest of us see or experience is simply a matter of cause-and-effect that is of no real (if even any) concern to them. For example:
The globalists do not really care who has guns or who does not since they have more than anybody else and nobody else could possibly overcome their own "arsenal" of safety and security ... and I suppose watching everybody else fret over the matter might make at least some of them feel more secure in what they already have.
We live in a democracy (mob rule)?! No, not in the past, not now and never at all! The USA's "founding fathers" made quite sure that was *not* what they had put together ... and today their actual idea of a moral people governing themselves has been completely over-run by the immoral ones ...
They may not be planning on a gun ban right now but I bet they try and pass gun registration so when they do ban them, legaly or illegaly, they will know who has what...
Beware their back door approach
I recieved a letter from Illinois State Senator Dan Rutherford. In it he explained that anti-gun Chicago Democrats are leading legislative efforts that would require gun owners to carry $1 million liability insurance, to imprint an ID on ammunition and to restrict legal, private gun sales. This is just the beginning. For years efforts to allow concealed carry have been bottlenecked in the Rules Committee. Unfortunately, most of Illinois legal gun owners do not know about the negative legislation, due in part to a biased media me thinks.
Beware, my gun owning friends, the anti-gun politicians won't come at you from the front to seize yor guns. They are crafty enough to know that silently and slowly they can accomplish the same goals through more subtle means. What good is a gun with no bullets?
I wonder how many European Jews said "Oh, you're just being paranoid" as the Hitler led Nazi Party came into power?
Well, here's a query...
I've been told that the 2nd amendment exists, in part, to empower citizens to fight against the government if tyranny rears its ugly head someday.
And, we realize that "right to bear arms" isn't written to be limited to firearms.
So, as citizens, should we have the right to bear nuclear arms? Chemical weapons? Bio-engineered?
I mean, if everything's going to be fair, don't you & I (and your next door neighbor or whomever) have those rights also included in the 2nd amendment?
I should be able to manufacture anthrax in my basement and walk around with a "dirty bomb" in my suitcase...
(PS... Dear FBI-guy monitoring the interwebs: I swear, this is just a hypothetical & philosophical question. I'm not really arguing in favor of this.)
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