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I'm nearly convinced, from Terry's web site and reviews I've read, to buy a Toto Drake to replace a very old 3+ gallon flush toilet in our home. Before I do, I have an observation and then some questions...
Observation
We have a Drake elongated, comfort height, WaterSense toilet at work. The one thing I don't like about the toilet is how dependent the flush is on your technique -- how long you hold the lever down while flushing. Flush normally (a quick push down on the lever and let go) and you get a minimal flush. Okay for liquids, just fair for solids. Flush more consciously (hold the lever down just a second or two) and you get a nice, powerful flush. Great for liquids and solids. Go for the gusto (hold the lever down until the tank empties, perhaps 3-4 seconds) and you get a clear-anything flush.
With awareness and skill, you can flush with finesse depending on the flushing needs at hand. However, that's a hassle if you want a great toilet that just works -- flush and go. I don't want to have to train my family members and guests how to use the toilet. Again, it should just work.
Questions
1. Has anyone else noticed this behavior about the Toto Drake?
2. Is there a way to make a normal flush actually flush more normally? I've noticed with a normal flush, the flapper is up for just a half-second or so before it falls back down and closes the tank opening.
3. Is there a way to make the toilet action less dependent on how you flush?
For reference, we have a Kohler Wellworth. It's flushing action is nice and consistent; it doesn't depend on how long you hold the handle down. That said, it's been a pretty weak toilet for solids over the years.
Thanks in advance for your insights.
Observation
We have a Drake elongated, comfort height, WaterSense toilet at work. The one thing I don't like about the toilet is how dependent the flush is on your technique -- how long you hold the lever down while flushing. Flush normally (a quick push down on the lever and let go) and you get a minimal flush. Okay for liquids, just fair for solids. Flush more consciously (hold the lever down just a second or two) and you get a nice, powerful flush. Great for liquids and solids. Go for the gusto (hold the lever down until the tank empties, perhaps 3-4 seconds) and you get a clear-anything flush.
With awareness and skill, you can flush with finesse depending on the flushing needs at hand. However, that's a hassle if you want a great toilet that just works -- flush and go. I don't want to have to train my family members and guests how to use the toilet. Again, it should just work.
Questions
1. Has anyone else noticed this behavior about the Toto Drake?
2. Is there a way to make a normal flush actually flush more normally? I've noticed with a normal flush, the flapper is up for just a half-second or so before it falls back down and closes the tank opening.
3. Is there a way to make the toilet action less dependent on how you flush?
For reference, we have a Kohler Wellworth. It's flushing action is nice and consistent; it doesn't depend on how long you hold the handle down. That said, it's been a pretty weak toilet for solids over the years.
Thanks in advance for your insights.