Study on the Adverse health effects on Pex A Pipe

[dollinger]

Here is an interesting study!

Migration of Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs) from PEX-a Pipes into the Drinking Water during the First Five Years of Use

A brand-new office building in Rauma, Finland, was used to study the first five years of PEX-a drinking water pipes in normal use. Both pipe material and water samples from hot and cold-water pipelines were analyzed. Migration of volatile organic compounds ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[dollinger]

Here is another Study. These studies indicate that it is the stabilization of the pex that is causing the leaching of the chemicals into the water. They also point out this could be causing degradation in the pipe too!

https://pureelementswater.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/PEX-Pipe-in-the-USA-Study-2014.pdf

 

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[Jeff H Young]

nice a little to complicated to captivate me though. Any reason to assume they have no reason to just milk this study to make money? unemployed scientists or something ? not saying they are just asking

 

[dollinger]

nice a little to complicated to captivate me though. Any reason to assume they have no reason to just milk this study to make money? unemployed scientists or something ? not saying they are just aski

Well if you want to look at some data carefully collected vs just speculation then you might want to read. What caught my attention is that the chemical leaching is from the stabilization of PEX which might explain why it breaks down. What is missing from the study IMO is any analysis of the installation method.

 

[Jeff H Young]

Well if you want to look at some data carefully collected vs just speculation then you might want to read. What caught my attention is that the chemical leaching is from the stabilization of PEX which might explain why it breaks down. What is missing from the study IMO is any analysis of the installation method.

Hey thanks No I dont want to study it but Im sure many are its totaly appropriate to bring up this study to share

 

[Pulse]

Looks like manufactures need to clean/simulate water flowing through these lines for a good 3 months to get a good drop in the VOCs, but that still doesn't stop anything coming in from outside the home, as more and more municipalities move to a plastic pipe.

My question is how harmful are these compounds..

 

[dollinger]

Looks like manufactures need to clean/simulate water flowing through these lines for a good 3 months to get a good drop in the VOCs, but that still doesn't stop anything coming in from outside the home, as more and more municipalities move to a plastic pipe.

My question is how harmful are these compounds..

Another good question is since the chemicals that stabilize the PEX are leaching out will the PEX the PEX break down?

 

[Jeff H Young]

Another good question is since the chemicals that stabilize the PEX are leaching out will the PEX the PEX break down?

Good questions and no one to ask or trust the answer from

 

[Pulse]

Another good question is since the chemicals that stabilize the PEX are leaching out will the PEX the PEX break down?

I believe it is just the leftover byproduct of the manufacturing process, more so than a break down, as contaminants significantly decrease as time goes on.

 

[JohnCT]

It seems all of this is pertinent (hidden pun) on cross linking of the plastic pipes, of which the other type of polyethylene pipe (PE-RT) has none..

John

 

[Pulse]

It seems all of this is pertinent (hidden pun) on cross linking of the plastic pipes, of which the other type of polyethylene pipe (PE-RT) has none..

John

You got me looking at Legend's HyperPure. You can use F1960(just slower compression). Apparently no leeching...hmmm

100yr warranty!?, why are more people not talking about this?

 

[JohnCT]

You got me looking at Legend's HyperPure. You can use F1960(just slower compression). Apparently no leeching...hmmm

100yr warranty!?, why are more people not talking about this?

I'm not sure if there's no leaching at all, but PE-RT is an interesting product. It is supposed to be less susceptible to chlorine than regular PEX. As far as the warranty, well, one thing I've discovered with long warranties is that most have sufficient exclusions that make collecting on them impossible (for one, the 100 year warranty is not transferrable so that limits most installations to a few decades at best), and really, the cost of the pipe itself is so small in the scope of a repipe that a materials warranty alone doesn't mean a lot. If the 100 year warranty paid the labor *and* any collateral damage the failed pipe and the repipe itself caused, I'd be more impressed with the warranty.

John

 

[Jeff H Young]

I'm not sure if there's no leaching at all, but PE-RT is an interesting product. It is supposed to be less susceptible to chlorine than regular PEX. As far as the warranty, well, one thing I've discovered with long warranties is that most have sufficient exclusions that make collecting on them impossible (for one, the 100 year warranty is not transferrable so that limits most installations to a few decades at best), and really, the cost of the pipe itself is so small in the scope of a repipe that a materials warranty alone doesn't mean a lot. If the 100 year warranty paid the labor *and* any collateral damage the failed pipe and the repipe itself caused, I'd be more impressed with the warranty.

John

Well if the 100 years isnt transferable Id warranty it for a thousand years (non transferable)! I see people catching on to the warranty