Back to back Jail toilets

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Erick G

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I got a good one, probably simple for the veterans of the industry. I have been recently sent to my towns county jail, which obviously has some cool stuff going on with the plumbing.

My issue, two back to back toilets, sinks in combination with them, arent properly flushing. The one toilet in cell A, doesnt flush when the button is pushed. Cell B pushes button and flushes both. A tech already put his hands on it, and replaced a delaney diaphragm in the one that wouldn't flush, and also the vaccum breaker was replaced with sloan. Im not positive because I am plumber 3 to touch this, but I would have liked to see how a vaccum breaker for the correct brand would have worked with correct diaphragm. That being said, Cell B still flushes the Cell A, so I am not sure if the flushometer was the underlying issue or something else. I've only ever really installed sloans, and during an incarceration term where i first started getting an interest in plumbing, i was responsible for helping maintain the sloan and delaney valves scattered in the prison. That was simple because the toilets each had their own line before it hit the main. Onto tech 2.

Tech 2 changes the one inch angle stop before it hits the flush valve, to sloan, which i am not sure it that piece matters to much, but that is what he did for whatever reason.

I get there, and have little info on what they did. Maintainence showed me the vaccum breaker box, sloan. Showed me the diaphragm they had in stock in their own shop Delaney. Saw Cell B still flushed the other cell, while other cell hardly tried flushing at all. Push buttons on both, not pneumatic, just rods pusing the stem. I'm stucj because i want to replace the vaccum breaker to correct brand, but I am not sure if that will even stop the other toilet flushing both. Sorry for long description, Trying to make sure everyone has information to go off of. If there is anything else, i will respond. I dont want to just replace the delaney with a sloan because im not sure what the real issue is.
 

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New job? Why isn't the installing contractor and engineer involved. Old job that worked. Call the toilet manufacture they should know what works or sloan tech dept.
 

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One thing to contribute: Match the correct 'gallons per flush' drop in fulshometer kit...maybe the previous person dropped in say a 3.5 for a 1.6 and it is pushing too much water to phantom flush the other side? mysteries are hard.
Snaked the trapways? Stops are either working and can be fully open with the slot or not, but they rarely need service.
 
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