Want toilet diagram

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  1. pks71

    pks71 New Member

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    I'm just changing out toilets and never done it before. I'm assuming it's a piece of cake but would like to see a diagram.
     
  2. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    toilet

    A diagram of what portion of the toilet? Most toilets are self-explanatory as far as installing or repairing them.
     
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  4. Snowman

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  5. Terry

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    Installing a toilet

    I see several stupid ideas for installing a toilet on the Lowe's video.
    I'm sure other plumbers will laugh when they see them too.

    Putting the rubber washer on the bowl? and then dropping the tank onto the gasket. (DON'T DO THIS)
    Pull the rubber washer onto the tank first.

    Putting a wax gasket on the bowl first? ( PLUMBERS PUT THE WAX ON THE FLANGE)

    Wrapping Teflon tape on threads?
    (WHAT ARE THEY THINKING?)
    Threads on toilets are NOT sealed by Teflon Tape.
    Seals are rubber cones, fiber washers, brass sleeves.
    Using Teflon tape on those will cause leaks.
    Teflon tape should only be used on "tapered threads"
    Toilets don't have any of those.
    All of their threads are "straight" cut.

    Not using the plastic bolt caps and plastic washers that come with the toilet and only using the metal washer?
    (NOW THAT'S REALLY STUPID TOO)


    Here is a link to Jamie's intructions.

    Installing a toilet
     
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  6. Snowman

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    Thanks Terry, :)
    I learned several useful tips with your comments. I did not know these things.

    Thanks for giving us the "good way to do stuff".\
    Tom
     
  7. macska

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    Stupid Question: Exactly what is the flange? Is it the ring that goes around the hole in the floor? Or is it the circular extension from the waste pipe that juts out onto the floor? Or are both of these different types of flanges? Do you use one or the other or both? Why???


    Here's a diagram I like, but it doesn't make me any less confused about flanges :confused:

    diagram
     
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  8. Mike Swearingen

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    A flange is shown in Figure 4 of the diagram.
    It is attached (glued, if plastic) to the closet bend (toilet drain pipe) and bolted to the floor. It should be flush and level on top of the finished floor level with only the thickness of the flange above finished floor level.
    The toilet is bolted to the flange, using the slots for the toilet bolt heads.
    A wax ring is used between the horn under the toilet base and the flange to seal it. (A toilet has its own built-in trap.)
    Good luck!
    Mike
     
  9. macska

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    Thanks Mike.

    What's this thing used for? It appears duplicative of the flange?

    closet flange

    -Macska (pronounced "Much-kah")
     
  10. Mike Swearingen

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    If you have a damaged or rusted out old flange attached to the closet bend, that thin one can be used as a repair flange on top of it.
    Mike
     
  11. hj

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    flange

    Since the picture is taken directly at it, there is no way to tell if it is a flange spacer ring or a full flange. If the picture were at an angle we could tell if it has the "tailpiece" below it to slide onto a riser pipe. But in any case, I would not use it since it is all plastic.
     
  12. macska

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    why is plastic bad?
     
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