ShowerDude
Showers
I have seen some unfortunate tile installations, especially uneven bad tub deck reveals, and horrible changes of plane in the corners.......it almost always directly reflects the price the homeowner paid.
Whether its a tub surround alcove, or a 3 wall capture shower, 4 wall capture, neo angle wall or ceiling. Especially if its a Remodel (and in many cases new construction) you should spend time getting your walls and ceiling....
A. Plumb
B. Square
C. In plane
D. Level (ceiling , tub deck, floor perimiter)
This is a skillset that is hard to understand and master especially in a neo angle build, it should be something your tile shower builder should talk to you about, This may reflect the difference in the price you get quoted from one contractor to the next...
Many pros can still float out mud walls perfectly meeting all the criteria above, but that is a skill unto itself and not recommended for a novice, so we find that cement board or other CBU type materials can be manipulated with shims. Among other things this may require some additional framing, blocking and you should pay close attention how far out you "fur" your walls and be sure to compensate with longer fasteners/screws..
Taking the time to get this right "First" will result in the best visual outcome and actually help you speed up the layout and tile setting process while minimizing your need to "float" your tile, it will help you end up with even reveals throughout your installation and you will be glad you payed the extra time and or $ to do this ( you just dont know it yet!)..
If you are installing say small mosaics and even 3x6 subway you need to have flat in plane walls.
John? can you work up a nice graphic detail of what this all means to the DIY homeowner or unskilled tile person?
Roberto, How do you get your walls Plumb, square and in plane...?
Jim please refrain from the obvious installation manual pasting.....and thanks in advance JIM
Whether its a tub surround alcove, or a 3 wall capture shower, 4 wall capture, neo angle wall or ceiling. Especially if its a Remodel (and in many cases new construction) you should spend time getting your walls and ceiling....
A. Plumb
B. Square
C. In plane
D. Level (ceiling , tub deck, floor perimiter)
This is a skillset that is hard to understand and master especially in a neo angle build, it should be something your tile shower builder should talk to you about, This may reflect the difference in the price you get quoted from one contractor to the next...
Many pros can still float out mud walls perfectly meeting all the criteria above, but that is a skill unto itself and not recommended for a novice, so we find that cement board or other CBU type materials can be manipulated with shims. Among other things this may require some additional framing, blocking and you should pay close attention how far out you "fur" your walls and be sure to compensate with longer fasteners/screws..
Taking the time to get this right "First" will result in the best visual outcome and actually help you speed up the layout and tile setting process while minimizing your need to "float" your tile, it will help you end up with even reveals throughout your installation and you will be glad you payed the extra time and or $ to do this ( you just dont know it yet!)..
If you are installing say small mosaics and even 3x6 subway you need to have flat in plane walls.
John? can you work up a nice graphic detail of what this all means to the DIY homeowner or unskilled tile person?
Roberto, How do you get your walls Plumb, square and in plane...?
Jim please refrain from the obvious installation manual pasting.....and thanks in advance JIM