I really dislike American values.

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  1. Ian Gills

    Ian Gills Senior Robin Hood Guy

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  2. frenchie

    frenchie Jack of all trades

    I think you're just buying more stuff.

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  3. The size of products are getting smaller. No way around that at this point as they are lessening the portions of meals, the oz. in jars and containers, the total weight of certain household items, like cereal or bagged items.


    We are the fools of many gimmicks at this point it seems...
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    I agree with you about american values...
    we think we are the policeman of the world



    if they keep de-valueing the dollar, its just a matter
    of time before we simply wont be able to maintain
    the "policeman of the world" atitude any longer...


    what I cant understand is how they are keeping the
    price of oil down when the value of our dollar is going into the toilet also,,,,,
    I sort of wonder if it is to lull us into
    a sense of well being while the currency is being destroyed....??



    gas is presently 235 near my home ,,,, is that cheap ??
  5. Ian Gills

    Ian Gills Senior Robin Hood Guy

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    I think your children are entitled to 4$-a-gallon gas Mark which will be needed to save the planet from global warming you see.

    We need some cap and trade.

    I'm hearing a lot on the news from Conservative "victims" at the moment, complaining about their taxes.

    There's nothing wrong with a bit of pork.
  6. Cass

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    Ian...please show me any real science that proves that global warming is caused by fossel fules and is not just normal climate change that is going to happen reguardless...and then prove that any human efforts to do anything about it will work the way we want it to....
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    BTW Ian...pork...is what almost killed me...I don't want the USA to have a heart attack from it either...:D
  8. Ian Gills

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    No Cass because this is simply common sense. http://www.google.com/landing/cop15/

    And it's not human efforts that are really required....just American ones, namely doing something about your cheap gas.

    Anyway I do not have to show anything. Your democratically-elected Government will act on this regardless, so the people have spoken.

    Cap and trade, Government healthcare and democracy all go hand-in-hand.

    I feel sorry for the poor Conservative "victims" and their taxes though.

    But we owe it to your kids. And I am ready to pay more for them. Are you?
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  9. Cass

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    Lets see..correct me if I am wrong...

    you think humans caused climate change and humans changing the climate is all just common sense...

    that no scientific provable data is needed to show humans have caused the problem and that anything we do will correct it...


    and that historical data showing that radical climate changes that have occurred in the past, without human intervention, could not possibly be happening now...

    All we need is common sense...have I got it right...
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  10. Ian Gills

    Ian Gills Senior Robin Hood Guy

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    Cass. There is ample evidence.....and a few crackpot Amercian scientists who are skeptics but seem to make the news here because Americans just hate paying taxes. I quite like paying taxes because I like to see how they help out poor Americans.

    CO2 is a greenhouse gas and has conclusively been shown to cause global warming. And it's no coincidence that CO2 levels have rocketed since the industrial revolution, especially in America where the average American produces 4 times the CO2 emissions as the average Chinese person.

    It's time for corrective measures, and we leave that to the economists.

    And one of the best corrective measures, is a tax on your gas.

    It's for the good of your (grand)children Cass who will have to live with and fix the consequences (I have none, so either way I am fine).

    Common sense i.e. something even "common" people who in times of old could not afford to go to school should have been born with.
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  11. Ian ---it was too late 50 years ago

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  12. Ian Gills

    Ian Gills Senior Robin Hood Guy

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    I vote Mark for President.

    ...if I could vote that is.
  13. nhmaster

    nhmaster Master Plumber

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    Ian, pretty soon that tongue of yours is gonna be too big to fit in your cheeks. ;)
  14. Ian Gills

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    I'm just asking the difficult questions Peter because someone has to.

    If you know how to plumb a gas water heater, how difficult can it be to fix global warming? I mean, really.

    If you cut the gas, the thing cools down. It's not rocket science.
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    Well, tis about to be below zero here for about a week so they say so I am in favor of all the global warming I can get. :D

    When I was in college in the 70's, all the global scientists were warning of the coming ice age. Strange how that talk all shifted 180 degrees (no pun intended ) when no one paid any attention and there wasn't any money to be made off the whole prospect.
  16. Ian Gills

    Ian Gills Senior Robin Hood Guy

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    Yeah, but this is real this time.

    Those were the 70s after all when Uncle Jesse was still a moonshine "ridge-runner" making the finest shine this side of the Mason-Dixon.

    Jesse Duke drove a 1973-77 Ford F-100 pickup truck: a cause of the problem we see today.
  17. frenchie

    frenchie Jack of all trades

    Makin it sound like something it's not... The ice age cycles do predict global cooling, but only in a couple thousand years.

    As for "all the global scientists"? Um, except maybe World Meteorological Organization - which issued a warning, in 1976, that "the World's temperature likely to rise".
  18. the microbe wagging the dog

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    Ian...this is really all just mental bs...
    its actually impossible for us to do anything but hang on for the ride..........

    Immagine with me if you will IAN..and Peter......
    all of humanity is nothing more than a bunch of microbes that live on the very edje of a dogs rectum........:eek:
    Everyone is trying to figure out some way how to keep this thing we live on from rumbling exploding some day.....

    the greatest scientists we have already know that their is something going on but they cannot seem to grasp that we are like a huge rash on that dogs behind....

    Actually, we are so very small that we cannot even think of ourselves as the tail trying to wag the dog......we are only microbes.....cosmically speaking.

    So when the dog finally has had enough and starts to rub his behind across the carpet.....

    that is when we are in for trouble....:D
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    IAN...
    did you ever read the hitch-hikers guide to the universe??


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  19. Ian Gills

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    Yes I did read it Mark and I like it very much. If you can put a man on the moon, then you can limit global warming (I agree we cannot stop it).

    It will require a rise in prices and taxes, some new technology and some new American jobs but it can be done.

    You almost did it with the electric car before California flip-flopped.

    It is known that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination...a Conservative imagination.
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  20. frenchie

    frenchie Jack of all trades

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