1920's shower mixer - American Standard Re Nu ? B201 or B202

Discussion in 'Shower & bathtub Forum & Blog' started by dradprice3, Oct 15, 2011.

  1. dradprice3

    dradprice3 New Member

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    I have what i believe is an american standard shower mixer. I think its a re -nu standard but cant find any info or pics of this despite searching on Google extensively.
    initially it was leaking as the brass screw that hold the front plate on had corroded away. Replaced them and the gaskets with neoprene but when i reassembled i have a drip from the shower. The gaskets seem to be part of the two moving slides that are in the bores on each side. one is conical the other (hot?) has a bulb on the end.

    Can anyone confirm the type of mixer and details on the gaskets. I dont want to pry them out as i will probably damage the worse than the little drip I have.

    Any help gratefully received.

    Adrian

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  2. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    Your valve is model B201 or B202 with washer joint sleeves or K-100R with ground joint sleeves. With an e-mail address, I could send a parts diagram.
  3. dradprice3

    dradprice3 New Member

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    many thanks this is helpful!
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  4. dradprice3

    dradprice3 New Member

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    anyone aware of a source for the o rings for these mixers?
  5. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    Brown's Partsmaster (www.BPIsite.com) should be able to help, although, if you have the old ones, and they are really "O" rings, (which I doubt since I do not think there were O rings in the 20a), any good hardware store should have them. Use the part number on the breakdown I sent and you will get the correct part.
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  6. dradprice3

    dradprice3 New Member

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    Thanks. They weren't o rings but washers. I didn't realize the chokes unscrewed per the diagram. Thanks to you two 1920s showers are once again operational! Thanks!
  7. Gwillie

    Gwillie Systems engineer

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    I am new to the forum and want to mention that I operate two of these old American Standard Shower valves installed in 1930. I have resealed them several times and never realized what a big deal finding new seals was. I made my own with a gasket cutter, and a drill press to turn down the washers to size.

    The valves work great and until the pitting corrosion on the shaft creates a permanent leak, they will probably outlive me. My local plumbing supply probably sees two similar units a week for parts. Many folks are so attached to their old fixtures around this area that they contract to metal spray the shafts and turn them back to size. Overkill to be sure but perhaps a sense of satisfaction is gained. Thanks for showing the pictures since the diagrams seem to be fading into obscurity.

    Gwillie
  8. margox

    margox New Member

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    Re-Nu Shower Mixing Valve

    I believe I have the same vintage American Standard Re Nu mixing valve on a shower. It appears it has failed because I can only get lukewarm water in the shower. Water is nice and hot in adjacent sink. Do you know where I could get one of the above model mixing valves? So far, I have been told the parts were discontinued a long time ago.
  9. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    You could certainly get lucky, but how many things 80-90 years old are there still repair parts available for? Sometimes it's hard to find some for 10-year old stuff (the limit car parts are required to be available, but since they often get reused, newer model years still use them thus extending their availability).
  10. joshdr

    joshdr New Member

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    I have one of these and need a parts diagram if somebody could send me one. joshodoner@gmail.com.

    Thanks.
  11. waltm

    waltm New Member

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    I also have a model b201 or a b202 1920's shower mixer. can you please send me a parts diagram and where i can possibly order parts? waltermartzen@gmail.com
  12. johnfrwhipple

    johnfrwhipple I love these ACO Shower Drains - Best in Class

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    How do you know this so well. For years i have read your posts specifying exact parts and models. Do you have a photograhic memory? :) Or are you just organized?
  13. jimbo

    jimbo Plumber

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    John.... as an apprentice plumber in the '20s, hj installed some of those valves!. He has been smart enough over the years to save the paperwork!!!
  14. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    quote; as an apprentice plumber in the '20s

    You overestimate my abilities. My dad didn't let me start working on them until the 50's.
  15. waltm

    waltm New Member

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    I was wondering if you might have a diagram of a renu mixer with the shower jets if you could please let me know waltermartzen@gmail.com thank you
  16. 336flyerfan

    336flyerfan New Member

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    B201 Standard Mixing Valve

    Help!!!!

    I'm in desperate need of the cold plunger that goes with this valve. I have checked all over metro detroit to no avail. From my understanding, this part has been long out of production. I've been able to find two hot plungers, but, nobody has the cold side. Does anybody know where I can find one? Please email me Rclevel2@me.com
    Last edited: Oct 19, 2012
  17. jimmyp

    jimmyp New Member

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    been inside several times and always have trouble getting it back together correctly...
    any chance of getting a copy of the diagram?.. Is there a trick as to how you set the plumbers??? Out? In?

    also are these valves supposed to be a positive shut off or simply act as a mixing valve?

    any input you could give would be greatly appreciated....www.crzyftblhd@yahoo.com
  18. jimmyp

    jimmyp New Member

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    hi...could you please send me a copy of the diagram? Crzyftblhd@yahoo.com

    also is there a trick to putting it back together? Should it function as a positive shut off?
  19. Pumpguy1

    Pumpguy1 New Member

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    Hi "hj",
    I too am looking to repair my ancient "Standard" shower. The pics posted at the start of this thread look identical to my shower. If you would be so kind, please send me a parts diagram to steveetzel@yahoo.com. Thank you!
  20. dersh16

    dersh16 New Member

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    Ihave this same mixer and need replacement washers. What position should the plungers be in when putting it all back together Thanks, Jack
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