Ian...please show me any real science that proves that global warming is caused by fossel fules and is not just normal climate change that is going to happen reguardless...and then prove that any human efforts to do anything about it will work the way we want it to....
that no scientific provable data is needed to show humans have caused the problem and that anything we do will correct it...
and that historical data showing that radical climate changes that have occurred in the past, without human intervention, could not possibly be happening now...
No Cass because this is simply common sense. http://www.google.com/landing/cop15/
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IAN.. thanks for the al gore thingey.......
he makes a great case..and is probably more right than we all want to admit to...
their are 6 billion people on the planet and 90% or most of them are living in poverty or close to starvation... and the wealthy could care less...
no one wants to admit to the problem becasue it would mean that some countries standards of living would have to be dramatically reduced..
like the USA and England ......they are not willing to use 80% less...it is not going to happen...
unless everyone wants to stop re-produceing more human beings and consumeing, its not really going to matter cause it was probably too late 50 years ago....
something will happen , the Earth it self is changeing right before our eyes... very quickly in Geologic terms ....
when you consider you can go to Iceland and watch the glacires and ice flows
moving and crashing on their way out to sea...
they are very concerned up there....
We are really nothing more than microbes that inhabit this beautiful being.. and most of us are un-aware that the earth is actually alive and humanity is just a small organisim living upon it....
IAN...things could dramatically change almost overnight....
so you can all debate who is to blame till your jaws fall off....
I would rather just be happy and try to make life the best I
can with the short amount of time that is probably left...
before the poo hits the collective fan
Well, tis about to be below zero here for about a week so they say so I am in favor of all the global warming I can get.
When I was in college in the 70's, all the global scientists were warning of the coming ice age. Strange how that talk all shifted 180 degrees (no pun intended ) when no one paid any attention and there wasn't any money to be made off the whole prospect.
I'm just asking the difficult questions Peter because someone has to.
If you know how to plumb a gas water heater, how difficult can it be to fix global warming? I mean, really.
If you cut the gas, the thing cools down. It's not rocket science.
Ian...this is really all just mental bs...
its actually impossible for us to do anything but hang on for the ride..........
Immagine with me if you will IAN..and Peter......
all of humanity is nothing more than a bunch of microbes that live on the very edje of a dogs rectum........
Everyone is trying to figure out some way how to keep this thing we live on from rumbling exploding some day.....
the greatest scientists we have already know that their is something going on but they cannot seem to grasp that we are like a huge rash on that dogs behind....
Actually, we are so very small that we cannot even think of ourselves as the tail trying to wag the dog......we are only microbes.....cosmically speaking.
So when the dog finally has had enough and starts to rub his behind across the carpet.....
that is when we are in for trouble....
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IAN...
did you ever read the hitch-hikers guide to the universe??
This is awkward, but...
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